Why are people STILL racist in 2019?

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Is is fear or something? Just feel that so much is fuelled by xenophobia...Brexit, stabbings, right wing extremism is on the rise.in a more interconnected world i would hope for the opposite

It’s the almost constant casual racism that I find the most upsetting, or when I get the awful racist comment said by colleague followed by “oh, but you’re okay”.

Dh and I were talking about this earlier. We were in the car and listening to the radio - they were discussing the racist abuse a footballer has suffered this week and questioning why it still happens in football. This guy phoned in and said it was a societal problem not a football one. He listed all of the racist abuse he'd suffered and said he had reported it an no one cared nothing was done. The hurt and anger in his voice was heart breaking. Its time that social media platforms started having a zero tolerance policy and banned racists from spouting their bile. Just ban them. Stop hiding behind 'freedom of speech' and just bam them. I recently reported a picture on facebook that had a Muslim woman holding a piece of paper over her face whilst wearing a hijab and a slogan about her being a 'silly bitch' for hiding her eyes because no one recognise her whilst 'looking like a letter box'. I reported the photo to facebook (and had a go at my nan, who posted it (and is, admittedly a very right-wing, hateful old lush)) and facebook told me it DIDNT breech their community standards. WTAF?

It's easier/lazier not to check your unconscious bias. We all have it but lots seem to think you shouldn't think 'Whoa, hang on, let's think about why I'm reacting that way'.

This is something that has been troubling me recently too. I just don’t understand the ignorance of some people. Things seem to be getting worse not better. It baffles me.

I don't think the internet helps :(

I'm not sure it's getting worse. People were very openly racist when I was growing up (70s/80s). But it feels like we're regressing a bit.

I don't know. I live in Norfolk where they're just fucking scared of anyone that doesn't look like them. Pathetic.

Why wouldn't they be?

Genuine question..

Because kids learn behaviour from their parents so they might not understand the history of racism but if their parents and grandparents speak about a race in a certain way then so will the children.

Muslims aren’t a race though. It’s a religion.
I also think religion has caused more harm than good. I would never be unkind , many things about lots of religions offend me and I think has been detrimental to society ( particularly women) . I guess they think the same about people who don’t follow their religion. The difference is religion is a choice though, no one has to practise.

That’s not the same as being racist. Judging someone by race which is effectively their look, is ridiculous.

For some I think it’s marginalisation, and/or the fact it’s usually those with least who tend to be expected to absorb a disproportionate share of the disadvantages of immigration.

If you can’t compete in the job market with a desperate economic migrant, willing to ignore illegal conditions and able to do a zero hours minimum wage job, then if you lack the reasoning to blame the employers and end consumers you aren’t exactly going to be celebrating diversity.

Likewise it’s all very well for me or anyone else to think permanently housing asylum seekers is the right thing to do. But I suspect if I’d been living in overcrowded high cost private rental for years, or was in temporary accommodation, I’d be questioning a housing policy that says a newcomer to the country jumps the list ahead of me. People with less reasoning skills will just blame the asylum seekers.

Not to mention that recent immigration and settling asylum seekers has often been in clusters. Especially the latter when they are dispersed to councils that mostly have smaller budgets to start with, with no extra funding for the costs, not just of increased population but a newly arrived population that understandably have some quite complex needs that put pressure on services.

I’m not saying I agree, but in some cases I can understand why they might feel that way. The people I can think of like this don’t really care about skin colour or religion, it’s about resources. If there was mass immigration from Australia they’d be the same.

People who are racist based on skin colour or religion alone, then unless they live under a rock and it’s fear then I haven’t a clue. Because they are dicks who need to put someone else down to justify their own existence.

Because people suck, society sucks, and the government suck.

If the only thing that you have to feel proud of is an act of chance through birth, then your life is pretty sad.

I'm white so I do have privilege but it's no act of mine that led to that; it's pure chance. I feel that my sense of justice and morality, my friendliness, my academic achievements, etc say more about me as a person than the colour of my skin. Because of the colour of my skin and my nation's history, I have privilege, but that doesn't make me a better person than another without these privileges.

Oh, heck, I'm not even sure if I'm getting across what I mean to say. Everytime I see pictures of white nationalists, I look at them and think 'how can you look at yourselves in the mirror and actually think that you are an example of a master race?'

"People who are racist based on skin colour or religion alone"

I think we need to keep religion and racism separate.

If Racism is wrong, then so is sexism and homophobia. But we are being told to accept religions that call people sub-human for being gay and that say Women are send class citizens.

As said, individuals may be kind, but groups never are.

@TrainspottingWelsh, totally agree with everything you have said. I live in a brexit hot-spot and I also live in social housing and you better believe that housing obvious foreigners (traditional African dress along with non native accent) and telling the born and bread populace that there is no housing available for them isn't going to end well. Especially when in the block of flats I live in (2 storey, 8 properties), half of them are not native to this country, it's not hard to understand why a certain kind of mindset might blame the tenants rather than take their lazy arses down to polling station and vote( for the right ones this time, please and thank you).

i do think its scare mongering to a certain degree and a tendancy of the left to put a harse label on people. For example if you believe we need to get tougher on immigration then they'll say 'you're a racist and that's racism'. Its word games and is a toxic practice.

Its our governments reluctance to realise that 'multiculturalism' is no basis for a society. It simply doesn't make any sense.

A culture by definition is a group of people bound together by similar common beliefs, similar practices and discorses. They bond by the fact their values are aligned and share the same practices.

Common sense should dictate that where there is more than one culture in the same vicinity then an obvious outcome is going to be conflict.

To put a number of different cultures together and try to label them a society is nothing short of plain dumb yet will continue because anyone who dares to doubt such sociological nonsense is incorrectly and unintelligently labelled a racist.

Unfortunately there are many people out there who are quite happy to misrepresent and label those who have spoken out against a particular group or culture, in an underhanded way to try and have the views of others shut down.

Where there is injustice it should be called out among any culture without fear of being labelled a racist.

I have suffered from this personally most recently after speaking out against the thousands of jewish parents who carry out acts of genital mutilation on newborn boys each year (circumsision) This was not being racist as I have no issue with anybody for being jewish but rather the issue of those who assualt newborn babies.

Genuine racism, that is the discrimination of somebody based solely on there race or skin colour, thankfully is something of a rarity nowadays due to a more educated population.....apparently.

Because stupid and racism go hand in hand.

Also children learn what they are exposed to at home, so if they have racist parents, then they are conditioned from a young age to think the same way. Luckily, lots of those children actually develop their own ability for critical thinking and realise quickly that their parents are ignorsnt twat badgers. Others remain stuck in the same cycle of stupidity as their parents: ie it’s easier to blame the brown/foreign/religious minority person for your problems than actually admit that you and people like you might be the cause of it

I like living in a multicultural society, I like my children to take such differences in their stride. Values that count are common to all humans.

I believe that it just isn't called out or punished enough. Education is lacking and someone needs to change the record.

I still remember alf Garnett on the TV. Prime viewing because it was a true stereotype people recognised.

I believe that it just isn't called out or punished enough.

This.
So often I hear “Oh but Grandma comes from a different generation when it was ok to say xyz/insert racist term”

Urrrrmmmm sorry but what happened to “every day is a school day?” Is Grandma exempt from learning that it’s not ok to say what she said just because she’s old and it might have been more socially acceptable when she was young? I don’t think so!!
I’m the child of immigrants (white Europeans), but am married to a Southeast Asian bloke and have mixed race children. My maternal grandfather made a comment when DC1 was a toddler, and I had to quickly remind him that A) We are a family of immigrants, and B) his great-grandchildren are of mixed race so he might want to think about the terms he uses to describe such people in future He’s in his mid-80’s, lived through the Holocaust, but was still able to be educated.....funny that

Because if we fight sideways we don't look up at the bastards who hate all of us.

Divide and rule indeed.

Pointing the finger is always easier than looking in the mirror. The idea of the quick fix is always preferable to some.

All the ‘isms appeal to part of the human psyche.

*Muslims aren’t a race though. It’s a religion.
I also think religion has caused more harm than good. I would never be unkind , many things about lots of religions offend me and I think has been detrimental to society ( particularly women) . I guess they think the same about people who don’t follow their religion. The difference is religion is a choice though, no one has to practise.

That’s not the same as being racist. Judging someone by race which is effectively their look, is ridiculous.*

Because of this thinking

Because people are still arseholes in 2019 is the simple answer. Another popular belief is that the world is over-populated and we are looking at a period of great economic divide and possible depression. With that comes scapegoating - see the period of time prior to WW2 in Europe. I think people are ignorant and choose to bring their kids up the same way. Some people refuse to move outside the box that they are comfortable in and learn that people are people - also that racism is a two-way street.

@Nothingcomesforfree

Personally I don’t think many people really are. Doesn’t everyone know someone with “views” but who gets on great with their one neighbour, relative ,work colleague who’s one of the groups they expunge on.

@Bravelurker

*I sort of agree with this to some extent, I mean I bet Tommy Robinson has met at least one Muslim person who he was nice to because they were nice to him and everyone is like this. But not everyone goes on hate fueled marches and shoots up places of worship where Muslims go.^

I don’t get the point either if you are making? Are you saying that even though someone has racist views they may like one black or Muslim person etc so that makes their views acceptable?

It sounds like you are both apologists for racists.

Human nature doesn't magically change because of the year.