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Monarchy Abolished?

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malibuloving · 19/08/2019 17:52

Other threads have inspired me Grin

Do you think we’ll ever live to see the Royals gone or perhaps our children will?

I can see public support for it to be abolished once the Queens gone. I feel like they’ve had too many chances at this point. The cover up of Andrews vile friendship with the sexual predator Epstein and the awful things Andrew probably did plus the pictures with teenagers has been an outrage. I also really like Harry and Meghan but their hypocrisy is quite embarrassing how they’re banging on about climate change and then jetting off across the globe on private jets. And more and more for all royals.

AIBU to think their time is up soon

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Shortstuff99 · 21/08/2019 23:26

I wouldn’t want to run into someone like you on a night out

It’s not likely, I don’t go to bingo

SamanthaBrique · 21/08/2019 23:27

I suspect our views on a monarchy differ @Shortstuff99 but I agree with you on the level of debating on this thread. There's an intellectual argument to be had about monarchy as a concept but you won't find it here.

Shortstuff99 · 21/08/2019 23:33

SamanthaBrique

You’re not wrong. You’re the only poster who seems to get it and we’ve not got completely opposed views as actually I’m not that bothered either way

I’ve never seen so much humourless and blatant bitter jealousy, disguised as ‘principle’. And it seems the irony of reflecting the sourness back is completely lost on most.

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 22/08/2019 07:23

I don't want a "slimmed down" monarchy - I want no monarchy!

Yes. This. It's cheering to see that there's so many republicans!

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 22/08/2019 07:27

I generally hate them all, they’re all Eton sociopaths

That's a bit of a sweeping statement. I hate the Tories but - Theresa May, John Major, Margaret Thatcher.....?

Prince Charles - Gordenstoun (sp?)
Duke of Cambridge - Eton
Prince George - likely to be Eton

Shortstuff99 · 22/08/2019 08:07

It's cheering to see that there's so many republicans!

I wouldn’t get lulled into too much of a false sense of security when everyone shares your view in an echo chamber

BossAssBitch · 22/08/2019 08:13

Shortstuff does it make you feel better about yourself to talk down to and insult strangers who disagree with your opinion? I can only imagine what a sad life you have, every post I have seen of yours is full of superiority and acridness. You know there are far more constructive ways of putting your opinions across Hmm I can really picture what you are like as a person Sad

Shortstuff99 · 22/08/2019 08:15

BossAssBitch

What a pathetic username and oh the irony

0lga · 22/08/2019 08:18

My goodness, these monarchists seem like a really unpleasant bunch. I wonder why .

BertrandRussell · 22/08/2019 08:21

Don’t worry, monarchists- i’m sure the thread will be deleted soon and you won’t have to bring your A game debating techniques to it any more!

Shortstuff99 · 22/08/2019 08:30

You’ve hardly raised the standard have you

Greenteawhisky · 22/08/2019 08:53

I’m very very sorry @Hithere12 but every time I read your name I see Hitler12.

My apologies Blush

BertrandRussell · 22/08/2019 08:55

“You’ve hardly raised the standard have you”

Really? I’m happy to stand by everything I’ve said.

derxa · 22/08/2019 09:34

But I'm not convinced that as heads of state the royals have anything more going for them than a decent president would have. People wouldn't be excited to meet them and they are excited to meet royalty. It's not logical but it is the case.

As for people banging on about going to Royal garden parties on here. Words fail me Grin

LaMarschallin · 22/08/2019 09:35

BertrandRussell

I have no problem with people saying negative things about MM.

I think you do. In my opinion (which may be wrong) you pounce on any threads about MM or Harry.

What I object to is when the negative things are ridiculous. Or when they are things which are not considered negative in other members of the royal family. It seems to have come as a huge surprise to many that the royal family live hugely privileged lives, are very rich, have very rich friends and spend fucktons of money. They didn’t notice til a “not quite one of us” type person started to do it!

You are right there. And a point that I've made is that maybe it's due to MM's nationality and her growing up in a particular generation that makes her - and her husband's - statements and posturing annoying.

So perhaps she doesn't realise how irritating she seems.
Kate is - to me - just as irritating.
But, having grown up in Britain, knows how to manipulate the media.

It's not necessarily racism.

Like you, I'm a republican. It certainly didn't come as a "huge surprise" to me that the royal family have privileged lives and spend fucktons of money.

I suppose I got really cross when someone suggested that Harry spouting about protecting the environment while taking private jets was like somebody smoking, but telling people that tobacco causes lung cancer.

And you replied along the lines of: Even if he told us to stop smoking while holding a fag we'd be stupid to not stop smoking ourselves.

Which is also right.

But maybe leading by example (eg smoking in private like the DofC) is something they could do.

Otherwise, they really are (regardless of race) pointless.

WeshMaGueule · 22/08/2019 09:55

People wouldn't be excited to meet them

I don't know, I'd wet my pants at the chance to meet Barack or Michelle.Trump, not so much...

derxa · 22/08/2019 10:16

I don't know, I'd wet my pants at the chance to meet Barack or Michelle.Trump, not so much... What's that got to do with the price of fish?

WeshMaGueule · 22/08/2019 10:19

Didn't you say no-one would be excited to meet a president?

Alsohuman · 22/08/2019 10:22

Why do words fail you at people who have attended Royal garden parties @derxa? I’d quite like to meet the Obamas too, as it happens.

derxa · 22/08/2019 10:32

Didn't you say no-one would be excited to meet a president? The president of the UK not the president of the USA. Two completely different things. Michelle Obama wasn't president.

WeshMaGueule · 22/08/2019 10:41

OK I think we're at cross-purposes. I think if we elected someone really cool to be president, like, I don't know, David Attenborough or someone, people would be excited to meet them. I personally wouldn't cross the street to meet King Charles.

derxa · 22/08/2019 11:09

I personally wouldn't cross the street to meet King Charles. I would go over to him to thank him for all work he's done over the years for the Prince's Trust, highlighting issues in the environment and supporting farming. His Dumfries House project is the second biggest employer in a deprived area in Ayrshire. He's also a good sport. He presented a prize to my very loud DF at the now defunct Royal Smithfield Show. My DF slapped PC on the back and may have used the word 'bugger' PC didn't turn a hair.

QualCheckBot · 22/08/2019 11:17

Derxa I would go over to him to thank him for all work he's done over the years for the Prince's Trust, highlighting issues in the environment and supporting farming. His Dumfries House project is the second biggest employer in a deprived area in Ayrshire. He's also a good sport. He presented a prize to my very loud DF at the now defunct Royal Smithfield Show. My DF slapped PC on the back and may have used the word 'bugger' PC didn't turn a hair.

PC has a lot of good points. He's also very widely educated - I'm not saying he's a genius, but he is interested in a lot of different things, when he could get away with doing much less.

But he's never been popular. And cheating on Diana just about finished him off. Remember that Diana said on national television that she thought that he didn't want to be king or wouldn't cope with it or something, and I think that's stayed in a lot of peoples' minds.

His flaws have been very publicised. Its a bit of a shame really because he now has a lot of experience of, well, Britain and British things. I think that now things wouldn't have been handled so clumsily as some things were in the past, but its done and its irrevocably affected his public image.

Alsohuman · 22/08/2019 11:29

I don’t think the Diana aspect has much effect any more. Nobody under 30 can even remember her. I dread to think how it would be now if she was still here, not going quietly. She’d have said anything to damage Charles in that interview, regardless of veracity.

derxa · 22/08/2019 11:34

And cheating on Diana just about finished him off. Yes his behaviour was despicable. However if he presides over a much slimmed down monarchy then it would be a good thing. I think he'll get rid of the Yorks for a start.