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Monarchy Abolished?

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malibuloving · 19/08/2019 17:52

Other threads have inspired me Grin

Do you think we’ll ever live to see the Royals gone or perhaps our children will?

I can see public support for it to be abolished once the Queens gone. I feel like they’ve had too many chances at this point. The cover up of Andrews vile friendship with the sexual predator Epstein and the awful things Andrew probably did plus the pictures with teenagers has been an outrage. I also really like Harry and Meghan but their hypocrisy is quite embarrassing how they’re banging on about climate change and then jetting off across the globe on private jets. And more and more for all royals.

AIBU to think their time is up soon

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ScreamingValenta · 20/08/2019 19:30

@LaMarschallin Glad I didn't get a 'we are not amused'' from Her Maj Wink

Greenteawhisky · 20/08/2019 19:31

I’m so glad to read the The Queen is nit educated. I can’t imagine her sloping off to Boots for some Hedrin.

BertrandRussell · 20/08/2019 19:36

“who seem very angry about something they seem to have next to no knowledge about“
You know, that describes you perfectly.........Grin

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 20/08/2019 19:37

@Greenteawhisky bloody autocorrect lol. Sorry

Shortstuff99 · 20/08/2019 19:45

You know, that describes you perfectly.........grin

Maybe in your strange fantasy world, sure. Back in reality you’ve had your ass handed to you all day long and you can look that up in Wikipedia it’s a fact!

Leighhalfpennysthigh · 20/08/2019 19:46

Now quoting Wikipedia as a legitimate source. Bless

origamiunicorn · 20/08/2019 19:48

I think when it come to beheading monarchs, Britain stole a march ...*

True but we don't celebrate it every year like something to be proud of.

Suddenly remembers Bonfire Night 😂

StoneofDestiny · 20/08/2019 19:50

the fact that Windsor and Bucks house has living royals in it makes it substantially more appealing than boring stinky old castles with information boards in

You don't actually think they are in residence when you visit do you?

BertrandRussell · 20/08/2019 19:54

“Back in reality you’ve had your ass handed to you all day long and you can look that up in Wikipedia it’s a fact!“
Good lord, really? I didn’t know I had a Wikipedia page!

Alsohuman · 20/08/2019 20:03

They were in residence when I visited Buck House @StoneofDestiny. That was kind of the point at a garden party.

StoneofDestiny · 20/08/2019 20:06

The Queen has attended 30,000 public engagements roughly. You think about that. At each one of those she has touched hundreds of lives giving them a memory they will cherish forever

I think if they weren't off earning their living and had time in their hands, lots of 'celebrities' could claim the same achievement - David Attenborough regularly comes up as people's ideal dream dinner guest,
Cristiano Ronaldo has 175.9 million 'followers' - I wonder what they give to meet him in person...........but people like Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and their ilk - they had the Cali relationship of self sacrifice, determination and courage in the face of immense threat - characteristics we should look for in s 'senior' citizen - not simple inherited wealth and accident of birth.

BertrandRussell · 20/08/2019 20:09

“The Queen has attended 30,000 public engagements roughly”

@Shortstuff99 has already amended that figure downwards......

StoneofDestiny · 20/08/2019 20:11

They were in residence when I visited Buck House @StoneofDestiny. That was kind of the point at a garden party

They are not in residence when regular tourists visit. The garden party 'thing' is different. I had a family member turn this invite down. It would have cost them hundreds in travel from Scotland plus accommodation food and 'outfit' - to accept an invite to 'reward' them for 'their freely given service to charity'. Ironic.

Alsohuman · 20/08/2019 20:17

Your relative missed out then, it was one of the best afternoons of my life. Surely Scottish people get invited to Holyrood for the precise reasons you outline.

StoneofDestiny · 20/08/2019 20:22

The Sovereign Grant, which funds the Queen and her household’s official expenses, shows the monarchy costs the taxpayer £67million during 2018-19 - up by almost £20million on the previous financial year

Express.co.uk poll, which ran from 10am until 10pm on Monday June 25 and had 6,226 votes cast, has revealed 76 percent (4,721 voters) agree the Royal Family are spending too much of our taxpayers money

Prince Charles and Camilla flew on the official ministerial jet RAF Voyager to the Caribbean and made an historic visit to Cuba.
Figures from the royal accounts revealed the island-hopping visit in March, which included stops in St Lucia, Grenada, Barbados and Havana among others, cost £416,576

As for Versailles crumbling - sounds like Buck Palace should be allowed to!

The total Sovereign Grant, which funds the Queen and her household’s official expenses ,for 2018-19 was £82.2million, made up of a core grant of £49.3million and an extra £32.9million to help pay for the 10-year £369million refurbishment project of Buckingham Palace
The remaining £15.2million, after paying £67million for last year’s official royal expenditure, was transferred to the Sovereign Grant reserve to fund future palace work

StoneofDestiny · 20/08/2019 20:26

Your relative missed out then, it was one of the best afternoons of my life. Surely Scottish people get invited to Holyrood for the precise reasons you outline

Nope - the invite was to Buck House!
And no - my relative does not believe they missed out - and I'm sure were not missed as another anonymous face in the crowd, but they still do their unpaid work (while the royals get paid millions in luxurious benefits for giving their name to said charity).

Shortstuff99 · 20/08/2019 20:32

They are not in residence when regular tourists visit. The garden party 'thing' is different.

Beep beep beep ... this vehicle is reversing!
Hahahaha OWNED

Shortstuff99 · 20/08/2019 20:40

The Sovereign Grant, which funds the Queen and her household’s official expenses, shows the monarchy costs the taxpayer £67million during 2018-19

And the Crown estate contributed £300m to the exchequer in the same year making a nice contribution to public funds

Just think some of you slagging the monarchy off would have got some of that back in benefits and spent it on sour grapes

LaurieMarlow · 20/08/2019 20:50

And the Crown estate contributed £300m to the exchequer in the same year making a nice contribution to public funds

The Crown Estate is not privately owned by the Windsor’s.

For the millionth time.

LaurieMarlow · 20/08/2019 20:54

Nice little quote for you here from the official Crown Estate FAQs. Please note the bit in bold. Wink

The Crown Estate belongs to the reigning monarch 'in right of The Crown', that is, it is owned by the monarch for the duration of their reign, by virtue of their accession to the throne. But it is not the private property of the monarch - it cannot be sold by the monarch, nor do revenues from it belong to the monarch.

BertrandRussell · 20/08/2019 20:55

I quite enjoyed my garden parties too. Decent nosh-but paltry portions.

Shortstuff99 · 20/08/2019 20:58

Nice little quote for you here from the official Crown Estate FAQs. Please note the bit in bold

Why don’t you put the next bit in too, you know, the bit about how neither is it owned by the government etc

LaurieMarlow · 20/08/2019 21:01

you know, the bit about how neither is it owned by the government etc

This thread isn’t about the government. It’s about the Queen.

You have stated, more than once on this thread that the Crown Estates are the private property of the Queen which is categorically incorrect.

It belongs to the legal entity of The Crown. That’s not the same as the government, no. I never said it was.

TeaLibrary · 20/08/2019 21:05

After the Queen goes then that should be it. It pisses me off to see the rest of them swanning around and living a life of untroubled luxury on the back of the taxpayer. Pisses me off even more when hypocritical attention seekers like MeAgain and her husband preach from their lofty pulpit on climate change but are conspicuously flying around in private jets.

BertrandRussell · 20/08/2019 21:05

There was a very nice strawberry tart though. And excellent cucumber sandwiches.