Monarchy Abolished?

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Do you think we’ll ever live to see the Royals gone or perhaps our children will?

I can see public support for it to be abolished once the Queens gone. I feel like they’ve had too many chances at this point. The cover up of Andrews vile friendship with the sexual predator Epstein and the awful things Andrew probably did plus the pictures with teenagers has been an outrage. I also really like Harry and Meghan but their hypocrisy is quite embarrassing how they’re banging on about climate change and then jetting off across the globe on private jets. And more and more for all royals.

AIBU to think their time is up soon

Given that thousands of people turn up to royal events, such as weddings, there still seems to be a strong monarchist feeling in the country, so I'm not sure how popular abolishing them would be.

Personally, I'd love to see them go, but I suspect those of us that think that way are in the minority.

I honestly don't understand what actual function the serve, but then I don't read Hello magazine, or whatever publications it is that they're featured in, and I'm not inclined towards forelock tugging.

Incidentally- not sure 30,000 can be right. That means more than one a day with no weekends, holidays, illness, pregnancy, maternity leave........

There's a difference between Queen as lady in funny hat opening fetes, and Queen as head of state ... it's the latter I object to.

@ScreamingValenta

Just to say, I thought the post from your daily diary at 12:17 was jolly amusing.

@Shortstuff99

The Queen has attended 30,000 public engagements roughly. You think about that. At each one of those she has touched hundreds of lives giving them a memory they will cherish forever.

Sooo....

If she'd done those back to back (without eating/toileting/grooming corgis etc) that's 3.425 calender years (according to my calculator) and each one lasted an hour (some more, some - eg the time I was privileged enough to watch her charge past me at Ascot - a lot less).

Out of 93.

A doctor of my acquaintance* worked from age 23 to 60 for the NHS. I won't bore you with the calculations but he had done easily more than that.

And he definitely touched hundreds of lives by saving them.

As opposed to waving and grinning at them.

*No. Not me. Although I might try waving and grinning.
Except doing that at 93 might get me sectioned.

(And, when she charged past me at Ascot in 1978, I noticed what incredibly thick foundation she wore. Everybody used to bang on about her lovely skin. It might be. But about 6 inches under the makeup.
Little bitchy aside there. Blush etc)

Queen opening fetes I can cope with too.

But I'm not convinced that as heads of state the royals have anything more going for them than a decent president would have.

PP have mentioned the awful idea of having people like Trump or Boris Johnson as president.

But Charles is likely to be our next head of state and he's hardly a paragon of virtue and integrity, is he?

It could be done in an afternoon with simple legislation.

The constitutional functions of the sovereign would be passed to the Speaker of the House of Commons. The People would be defined in law as Sovereign, and the nation would revert to its former title as the Commonwealth of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

Queenie is untouchable, but do it on her death and serve the lot with eviction orders and appointments at Westminster Job Centre.

Regards tourism, the French seem to manage.

But I'm not convinced that as heads of state the royals have anything more going for them than a decent president would have.

You see I've always been what you'd call a "weak republican". I've never really been thrilled about the idea that our head of state is an inherited position. But I've also never really been bothered to get behind whatever would replace it.

However, over the last three years I've discovered that it;s actually a bit thick to have plans for after a major change in the countries running, so let's just dump her madge, and then see what we can cobble together later.

Not sure a directly elected president is the way forwards ? (But then the US doesn't have that either). But as I say, there's no need for details, it'll all work out in the end.

visitor numbers for Windsor castle, Buckingham Palace and the Tower of London are significant in that they are leagues ahead of any European equivalent

You might at least do a little research before posting things like this, shortstuff

Visits to Windsor Castle & Frogmore combined: £1.44 million

Visits to Buckingham Palace: 482,000

Visits to Tower of London: 2.85 million

Visits to Versailles: >6 million

So even if you combine all three "royal" attractions, they don't begin to equal one unoccupied French palace

www.statista.com/statistics/373081/uk-royal-tourism-admission-numbers-by-establishment/

www.alva.org.uk/details.cfm?p=423

www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/The-Louvre-attracts-record-visitor-numbers/

The People would be defined in law as Sovereign

That will never happen in England (and Wales). The people ? Sovereign ? Someone's not being paying attention for the past 953 years

Scotland may have different ideas.

*Greenteawhisky

Is there a left vagina?*

Plenty on this site!

BertrandRussel Let me Google that for you

The Queen did 14,429 engagements between 1984 and 2012

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/queen-elizabeth-II/10007621/Queen-has-completed-15000-official-engagements-study-finds.html

She did just under 300 last year despite being 92

www.cnbc.com/2019/01/03/meghan-markle-prince-harry-and-more-royals-who-worked-most-in-2018.html

Even assuming the low ball number of 300 a year based on what she could do as a 92 year old, for the missing years in the daat above since her coronation in 1952, that's another 9000 giving a total of 24,000 and that is a low ball number

Don’t bother to google it for me- it’s you that’s making the statements! Fairly meaningless anyway- we have no idea what an “engagement” is. On a foreign trip they could easily clock up 8 a day. Then some of them will be a 5 minute meeting in the palace. And loads will be stuff that most of us would think of as fun. And some will be things like that absurd river pageant thing- an entire day of grimness. But the figure alone is worthless. Particularly the one you made up!

As long as we don't follow the French. Behead their monarchy and then celebrate it every year

But Charles is likely to be our next head of state and he's hardly a paragon of virtue and integrity, is he?

Could be worse. We could be staring down the barrel of King Andrew.

A lifetime of dedication and self denial, fulfilling a million stupefyingly boring long winded engagements, being a figurehead to millions of people worldwide and managing a large portfolio of nationally owned properties and staff

Smiling and waving whilst not having to worry about how to pay the mortgage, whose turn it is to take out the rubbish or getting back in time to pick up the kids from the hideously expensive childcare. Yeah. Self denial indeed. And she doesn't exactly manage the legion if staff that do everything for her.

So actually, what does she do? She's certainly nit educated or trained to do anything. Except smile and wave of course. Those really important skills

As long as we don't follow the French. Behead their monarchy and then celebrate it every year

I think when it come to beheading monarchs, Britain stole a march ...

I would love to abolish it, or at least scale it right down.

So actually, what does she do? She's certainly nit educated or trained to do anything. Except smile and wave of course. Those really important skills

To be fair she worked fixing vehicles during the war (which is a lot more than a lot of wanker "we won the war" Brexiteers have done ....)

Shortstuff99

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Greenteawhisky

Is there a left vagina?

Plenty on this site!

Yes. There's at least one.

I think people were trying not to point you out.

You can't help some people 🤷‍♀️

(There's no need to thank me for rearranging your asterisks)

She's certainly nit educated or trained to do anything. Except smile and wave of course. Those really important skills

To be fair she worked fixing vehicles during the war

This last exchange sums up the utter ignorance contained in the majority of posts on this website. It’s just as well some posters with some actual knowledge are here too.

There's no need to thank me for rearranging your asterisks

No actually, thank you. You stick at that you’re good at it. ‘Left’ is a position on the political spectrum occupied by various deranged republicans on this thread and those jealous that someone has a nicer life than them, who seem very angry about something they seem to have next to no knowledge about

Versailles is a sad crumbling relic

To be fair, so is Prince Philip.

@Shortstuff99 go on, admit it. Your really Kate aren't you? Arguing with us to protect your lovely life and prevent you from having to get a job like the rest of us plebs?

I would like to see the monarchy abolished. I don't like the concept of people being born better, not just richer, but "better,' with titles, privilege and status. The way Harry and Megan are behaving is going to really rub people up the wrong way. It would be very difficult procedurally to get rid of them but I could see there being a big change after the Queen dies.

@Shortstuff99

There's no need to thank me for rearranging your asterisks

No actually, thank you.

You're welcome.

You stick at that you’re good at it.

I might be thinking that I'm good at the use of the Queen's* English. However, it seems you may be able to correct me.
Maybe.

'Left’ is a position on the political spectrum occupied by various deranged republicans on this thread and those jealous that someone has a nicer life than them, who seem very angry about something they seem to have next to no knowledge about

Did I say I was" 'Left' "?

You're right. I'm jealous of the royal family and would love their money.

But, just on the down low, I'd be a little bit wary of using words like "deranged" before checking back on some of your posts.

*You know. Her that you're all keen on.