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The knives are out for the royal family

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justasking111 · 19/08/2019 14:26

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

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derxa · 19/08/2019 17:31

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Pamplemousecat · 19/08/2019 17:32

Diana was a 19 year old pushed into an arranged marriage. Whereas I think MM rather pushed her way in at age 36, quite determinedly and quite voluntarily. She knew exactly what she was doing.

Mandalorian · 19/08/2019 17:33

My point being that America offered her nothing but the role of briefcase girl
Not a MM fan at all but thats a bit harsh. Suits would be written, cast and edited in the US but filmed in Toronto because the city has great tax incentives for this kind of thing.
There are many many shows that film up there but are still edited etc back in California based studios.

Winterlife · 19/08/2019 17:34

Americans don't have as big a problem with 'worthy' celebs acting contrary to their espoused causes.

Yes they do.

Some very rich people are doing what very rich people do, the Middletons, their friends the Clooneys, Elton John, this is the hypocritical norm for their lifestyle and nobody raises an eyebrow at it but when one of them is black?

It has nothing to do with Meghan's race, and everything to do with their virtue signalling. The Middletons, Clooney, and Elton John don't lecture the world on the environment. If they did, and then, not even a month later, took four private jet trips (major carbon footprint), they'd be called out on their hypocrisy as well.

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 17:35

hopefully freedom of speech doesn't protect "you" individual or general for making vicious comments about real people.
Racists or not.

Can I ask if you're always this hypersensitive about someone who wouldn't cross the road for you? Just as you wouldn't have crossed the road for her before she married a dim prince?

And if you're trying to claim that anything I - or anyone else - here has written violates British law than you're not in touch with reality.

WHY does it matter if Meghan work on a show btw? It make you sound very bitter to look down at her for it, it's pathetic. Yes, she had a role in a show filmed in Toronto, among the rest of the cast. What's embarrassing about that exactly?

For the 3rd time: My point is that alll this 'Poor Megs should go back to America' talk is nonsense because nobody there was at all interested in her until she married a thick British prince. She only finally got the fame and fortune she had been seeking all her life when she came to live here. America wasn't interested in her.

And if you find my posts boring, by all means don't read or respond to them. As I say, I'm not here to entertain you.

SeriouslyEnoughAlreadyRantOver · 19/08/2019 17:35

If he had married Cressida Bonas, people would never have been as outraged

I am not sure. Kate already took quite a beating when she was a girl friend and newly wed, it's only the arrival of Meghan that has turned many of the haters.
(Waity Kaity, Kate-no-Mate, Will not and Cannot - the Duchess of Doelittle, the list goes on, and these are not the vicious comments she received, even her mother got a handful!)
I bet whatever you want that George's wife will get absolutely abused as well - if the Monarchy still exists, which is debatable.

ssd · 19/08/2019 17:36

I wonder if the RF are quite happy to throw MM to the dogs if it keeps the heat off Prince Andrew

Heartofgoldheadofcabbage · 19/08/2019 17:38

@IcedPurple you’ve obvious chosen to ignore a lot of what I said. Try doing some research to balance the so called tax payer funding and privilege again the benefits H&M and brought to the UK in terms of increased tourism and their successful charity involvement. Or should I call you Megxit?

malibuloving · 19/08/2019 17:38

Is it just me who feels like they’ve run their course? There’s no longer the spell of them around the country and I for one feel like when the Queen dies it will be the end of an era. That’s the last generation to have some sort of actual family connection to Queen Victoria (her great or great great grandma?) and I don’t really know how to explain it I suppose.

If nothing else, the vile Andrew and his family should step right back to being private citizens. Harry and Meghan do get a lot of hate but I think they are quite hypocritical with the whole private jet yet banging on about climate change- and this comes from an eco warrior!

VenusOfWillendorf · 19/08/2019 17:39

It's as kitb said - it's August. Time of year when there's no real news, so they report nonsense like this.
It used to be called the "Silly season", but not sure if it still is, given so much of the news these days is 'celebrity' drivel and hearsay. I actually think the Royals have it a lot easier now than they did in the 80s/90s.

Mandalorian · 19/08/2019 17:39

Suspect the next move for Andrew will be to make him a 'wholesome' married man again. Nowt like a Royal Wedding to stop us wondering if the prince is a pervert after all.

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 17:39

Not a MM fan at all but thats a bit harsh. Suits would be written, cast and edited in the US but filmed in Toronto because the city has great tax incentives for this kind of thing.

Fair enough, but 'Suits' was a basic cable TV show, hardly 'Game of Thrones'. Meghan could have walked down any street in America or anywhere else in the world, and nobody would have looked twice at her. Until she married Harry. It was that which made her a global star, not her modest acting career.

heath48 · 19/08/2019 17:40

The Monarchy is damaged irretrievably now.

I am in my 70’s,I remember the death of King George V1.

The Royal Family have never been so unpopular as they are now.Their arrogance astounds me,they are ignoring the British Public at their peril.

I believe I will live to see a Republic.

SeriouslyEnoughAlreadyRantOver · 19/08/2019 17:40

Can I ask if you're always this hypersensitive about someone who wouldn't cross the road for you?

I am not specially sensitive, I just dislike online bullying and I am bored of the vicious comments.

Some of the attacks against Kate were amusing, some probably factual, I find the hatred towards Meghan unnecessary because it's vicious and bitter.

You are just making up a complete persona. Have you even met her before she got married? Have you even spoken to her ever? Or are you just pretending you knew her and can absolutely comment on her character?

I found the personal attacks against the York sisters just as bad, it's one thing to comment on their choice of clothes if you must, but about their physical appearance? It's pathetic. They didn't chose where they were born.

ChlamydiaSoup · 19/08/2019 17:40

@ssd
Interesting point.

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 17:43

Some of the attacks against Kate were amusing, some probably factual

Some of the 'attacks' against Meghan are very likely factual too.

Why are you still reading and responding to me when my posts 'bore' you btw?

Winterlife · 19/08/2019 17:44

The rumours about Andrew and under age girls have been circulating for years, but there hasn't been anything concrete. Now it looks as though there might be.

Not defending Andrew in any manner, but if he had sex with a 17 year old in New York, that was perfectly legal. If it were for money, it was not.

Meghan was established and successful before she met Harry in terms of charity, humanitarian projects and earnings, she has tried to continue this and been vilified.

She was a successful actress in a minor cable tv show. She had zero presence in North America, though. No one knew about any "charity" or "humanitarian" projects.

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 17:44

Is it just me who feels like they’ve run their course? There’s no longer the spell of them around the country and I for one feel like when the Queen dies it will be the end of an era.

Yes, definitely. Charles and Camila are not liked. Charles has shown himself to be inept many times. I am not sure the royal family will survive him.

Gobbolinocat · 19/08/2019 17:46

I'm not a royalist, I do like the the queen and the pomp and ceremony around the family but how on earth can Andrew wriggle out of this one?

He's already got arrogant reputation, allegedly he called a well meaning freind a Puritan for chiding him being close to epstein. The photos and the footage of him in the house literally surrounded by girls are deeply concerning.
His words, and his deeds do not match up, regardless of whether he never touched a girl.

justasking111 · 19/08/2019 17:46

I think there is a lot of smoke and mirrors going on. So many people involved in the Epstein scandal, Presidents, CEO`s, A list actors, billionaires, as the names pop up you think who? Then read how rich and powerful they are it is astonishing. One minor royal on a stipend really is a tiny part of the whole sorry story.

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NeelixFelicis · 19/08/2019 17:46

Suspect the next move for Andrew will be to make him a 'wholesome' married man again. Nowt like a Royal Wedding to stop us wondering if the prince is a pervert after all.

Plus, Fergie & Andrew have known each other and lived together for over 30yrs. She's taken a financial bail-out or three from Epstein herself.

And a wife can't be compelled to testify against her husband in court, can they?

Yep I see a royal wedding too.

Gobbolinocat · 19/08/2019 17:47

In other eu countries they still have royals but they are very much downgraded and mimised.

justasking111 · 19/08/2019 17:47

Oh and I like Suits more for Donna and poor Louis.

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IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 17:48

In other eu countries they still have royals but they are very much downgraded and mimised.

Plus, most of them other than the direct heirs are expected to get jobs.

I have heard that is what Charles plans to do too - 'streamline' the royal family so that only a few are directly funded by public money. The way things are going though, it might be too little, too late.

NeelixFelicis · 19/08/2019 17:49

I actually believe the Queen takes her job as Monarch so seriously, she'll make every concerted effort to stay alive long enough for Charles to pre-decease her.

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