The knives are out for the royal family

[justasking111]

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

Ugh so the Oprah thing is much like the Vogue edition. If your whole schitck is to raise awareness, in an exquisitely hypocritically way, why use those platforms?

Why not use local papers, the Big Issue... why use the most elitist platforms? And problematic platforms? It’s beyond cringe, it just feels wrong

PA... let’s see what happens

Feels wrong. Yes it does. That’s the issue I have too.

I think he’s trying to be like his mother but he’s missing the point. She didn’t say stuff - she did stuff. She didn’t make a preachy documentary about AIDS. She pitched up at the hospital, spoke to patients, offered friendship when no one wanted anything to do with them. People responded to that because she was, in a small way, practising not preaching.
That was the difference.

Diana allegedly sent staff out looking for projects to front I don't think she pitched up to do anything fronting Aids charities suited her because it raised her profile, I am not saying she didn't care but I don't think she was selfless

Of course not. But the point is she focussed on deeds not words. She didn’t tell people to embrace aids patients - she did it.
People liked that. They don’t like being preached to.

How big was Diana’s visit to AIDS patients? I was born in the 80s so I don’t know how the media covered it back then,
The only other well known famous I know of who visited AIDS patient was Barbara Bush.

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From what I understand there was such a stigma surrounding Aids patients . And not many famous people wanted the association with AIDS.
So she probably was the first famous person to do so?

It was big Queenofarles. I remember it and to me at the time it seemed to breakdown prejudice in a way no amount of education had done. The photos of her embracing/touching people with Aids really did speak a 1000 words. I am no Diana groupie by the way but some of what she did was very impressive.

Her interest in Aids and other charities waxed and waned I read in Jephsons book recently. I presume she lost interest when a treatment was found. Also she had a lot of demons which meant she retreated from royal duties at times due to the other things swirling around her.

It was huge Queen. People didn’t have any knowledge about aids thirty years ago and thought it could be picked up very easily from any contact. Diana shaking hands with aids patients was huge news.

It opened up discussions and minds and even soaps such as EE ran storylines involving a character who had aids.

It’s a very good example of deeds being worth thousands of words and both of her sons would do well to think about that. I personally am sick of hearing from both of them about what I should care about. Let’s see some actions. Put yourselves out a bit.

Now that HMQ has approved Bojo’s dictatorship, I think we should finally abolish the monarchy and have a republic. And I NEVER thought I would say this. Where is David Cameron? Come in, man, let’s be having you

Bit late to the party here but I have a theory that the reason there’s so much anti Royalty media right now is because the Queen is extremely old and the press are putting down the seeds of getting rid of the monarchy once she dies.

Plus they keep making dumb choices.

Apparently Prince Andrew's reps are now arguing that the picture where he has his arm round the young woman in question is photoshopped? I mean wtf. Surely this can be easily proven. If it turns out his denials are lies then how can he continue in any public role and how can the Queen support him?

What about her arm? Photoshopped too?
I wish he won’t go down the Bill Clinton road and deny anything only to later admit.

The denial of it being his arm by palace aids only makes me even more suspicious of his complicity. This is the sort of defence only employed by the really desperate who have to try and avert obvious photographic evidence. Its like where you show a burglar a clear cctv of themselves stealing, and they try to say it wasn't them - it must have just been someone who looked really, really like them.

He’s all over the place, isn’t he.
This is a big ball of pus waiting to pop.

Diana's interest in AIDS and in genuinely interacting with people in a real way, not 'how far have you come?' was really groundbreaking at the time. She wasn't doing it to be trendy or fit in with celeb friends, or for soundbites . She got out and touched people, showed genuine care and warmth . At the time AIDS was akin to the plague in most people's minds.

Her work to abolish landmines was also very important . She didn't do it look good, she really wanted to make a difference in a way that wasn't about herself.

Apparently Prince Andrew's reps are now arguing that the picture where he has his arm round the young woman in question is photoshopped?

That picture has been around for years now, at least since epstein was convicted but for whatever reason nothing came of it then and it was ignored by the media and the royal family. How come it's only "photoshopped" now? Just when people are actually addressing it and it looks like Andrew might actually be in trouble. [Hmm]

Accusations too about Lord Mountbatten and involvement with the Kincora Boys Home in Belfast scandal.
I do hope it's not true

beanaseireann,, I think if the truth ever came out we would all be stunned. Dh has read a lot about this and its awful, if it is true.
Him and the IRA were interlinked in different ways. Allegedly.

Is it a good day to announce that an old photo was photoshopped?

Just read this on one of the Brexit threads.

Is having Prince Andrew splashed across the front pages with a scandal on the day Johnson annouces all this convenient? Putting the queen under pressure?

Oh, Boris, isn't it terrible what the papers are saying about Andrew ?

Well, Ma'am, if you'd just sign here, we can make it all go away....

Love that theory curly

Articles like this www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/celebrities/news/a28804004/the-duchess-of-sussex-is-reportedly-struggling-to-not-defend-herself-against-cruel-media-backlash/?utm_campaign=likeshopme&utm_medium=instagram&utm_source=dash%20hudson&utm_content=www.instagram.com/p/B1tvRUhh24Z/ will not help the cause.

Never complain never explain. Well unless you are Andrew who needs to do some explaining big time.