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The knives are out for the royal family

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justasking111 · 19/08/2019 14:26

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

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CurlyWurlyTwirly · 24/08/2019 20:58

Not sure if it has been posted here; but there has been a statement released by Prince Andrew.
(I do not for the life of me think he even wrote it, too busy with his golf) but at least the palace is trying to address the situation.

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Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/08/2019 21:39

It's not well written, so I think he probably did write it himself.

justasking111 · 24/08/2019 21:52

Perhaps the palace staff having been called out when they previously denied things have taken a stand and let him post his own version of the truth.

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LaurieMarlow · 24/08/2019 22:22

That’s shockingly badly written.

Does he not have a private secretary or similar?

NoTheresa · 24/08/2019 22:53

Myimaginarycathasfleas

It's not well written, so I think he probably did write it himself.

Lollol

Triglesoffy · 24/08/2019 22:58

Why is it not well written?

Myimaginarycathasfleas · 24/08/2019 23:47

Just a bit clumsy, the fifth paragraph especially. If written by a Palace official I think it would have been better. Harry's statement about the treatment of his girlfriend was the same, had his dabs all over it.

TheBigBallOfOil · 25/08/2019 06:48

It is very badly written. Also it contains an untruth. He must have suspected the behaviour leading to Mr Epstein’s conviction after his conviction.
I mean, it’s idiotic. The arrogance of the man to think this will satisfy anyone.

NotJustACigar · 25/08/2019 07:00

I think at this point it's probably desperation more than arrogance. Of course that letter's not going to cool anyone. About him being the Queen's favourite - narcissists are often quite charismatic which can be fun to be around (maddening but fun - my father is one). I guess the Queen enjoys being with someone who's engaging and doesn't pander to him. Charles on the other hand comes across as very boring (I couldn't speculate what her other two children are like).

Mrsjayy · 25/08/2019 07:20

That statement what a pile of shit eh ! Hehardly knew him poor PA caught up in this when all he did was meet the guy twice at mostHmm

lavenderandthyme · 25/08/2019 11:40

Lies, Lies and statistics. Only the statistics don't support his assertions.

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 11:44

had his dabs all over it.
🤣🤣🤣

TheBigBallOfOil · 25/08/2019 11:48

Unless he is trying to say his friend, a prominent individual with a public profile and many famous friends, was convicted and served a custodial sentence without him being aware of it?
Just how stupid does he think we are?

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 12:11

He is a desperate individual in every sense.

separatelives · 25/08/2019 12:16

I think we're all going to get s huge wake up call about the RF. Too many lies, deceptions and deceit.. Time to get the popcorn out.

ssd · 25/08/2019 13:40

Lies, cries and denies.
Stupid man.
What's worse, him still being friends with someone convicted of sex abuse or him being so utterly dim and clueless he didn't realise when someone has been convicted if a crime THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE A BAD THING

(sorry for caps but this makes me scream)

paradyning · 25/08/2019 14:01

The AN Wilson Time's article is behind a paywall. What did it say about Wills alleged affair??

beanaseireann · 25/08/2019 14:09

Id like to know too Paradyning

CurlyWurlyTwirly · 25/08/2019 14:16

AN Wilson article

IIn two days’ time we shall be celebrating the 200th birthday of Prince Albert, the man who invented the modern constitutional monarchy. Most of the cheers raised will be for his cultural legacy, his championing of the Great Exhibition of 1851, his support for museums and the arts. Likewise, many will praise the delicacy of his political legacy, the subtle way in which he, Queen Victoria and Robert Peel reshaped modern constitutional monarchy to make it compatible with the growth of parliamentary, representative government.

In the royal family itself, however, there is one legacy from the upright, saintly prince which they will view as more of a burden than a privilege. That is, his insistence that the royals should be models of domestic virtue and sexual continence.

Albert, the child of parents whose divorce had amused and entertained the press for months during his boyhood, married Victoria in 1840. She was the daughter, and niece, of paunchy old roués, all of whom had mistresses. Together, V & A decided to be monogamous, and never to stray from the marriage bed.

When their son Bertie, the Prince of Wales, was found to have slept with an actress called Nelly Clifden, Albert — by then himself, aged 42, a dying man — reacted as if the skies had fallen.

“If you try to deny it, she can drag you into a court of law to force you to avow it.” He reminded the prince of “the grief which you have caused us by the crime [sic] committed towards us and the country of which you have been invested with rank and wealth and which sees its own honour defiled in that of its royal family”.

Did any such words fall from our sovereign’s lips at the breakfast table at Balmoral when the sabbath-day press informed Her Majesty of Prince Andrew’s close friendship with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Roberts? How often, as they cringed at press exposure of the Prince of Wales’s taped phone calls with Mrs Parker Bowles (as she then was), of the Duchess of York’s toe-sucking saga, or Kate, Duchess of Cambridge, having a mysterious feud with her Norfolk neighbour the Marchioness of Cholmondeley, must modern royals have wished that Prince Albert had not been such a prig, and forced upon them the difficult legacy of being maritally well-behaved.

What he would have made of the Duke of Cambridge’s assertion that he would be “absolutely fine” if one of his sons was gay, or the Duchess of Sussex’s reported plans to raise her child Archie as gender-fluid, we can only speculate. Likewise, we can merely imagine how high Albert’s eyebrows would have shot up his balding skull at the surname now bestowed on his family: “Mountbatten-Windsor”. What kind of a name is that?

When I had finished my book on Prince Albert, I gave it the subtitle The Man Who Saved the Monarchy, but I am now beginning to wonder whether that phrase is right. Did he set the bar so high that, in our generation, we’ll watch them fall like ninepins?

Supposing he was right, and a monarchy can only really survive if the royal family have a higher standard of personal morality than the rest of us? In the century after his death, the press connived in this idea by drawing a veil over the shenanigans of royalty.

Gossips all knew about the antics of “Edward the Caresser”, but the newspapers did not print stories about the King. Only very late in the Abdication crisis did the papers even mention King Edward VIII’s wish to marry an American divorcee. As for Prince Philip and the present Queen, the press convention is that they have never put a foot wrong.

For the generations that come afterwards, however, that convention no longer applies, and even if newspapers keep quiet about Prince Andrew and the other royals, social media will join the dots.

Since George V allowed his shy son Bertie, the future George VI, to “marry out” — choosing the popular Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon to be Duchess of York, and later the Queen — they have broken the Albertian convention that future monarchs should only come from a limited pool of European royalty.

The “Queen Mum” might have been popular in some quarters, but by affecting to pretend she was royal, the gate was opened for the likes of Duchess Fergiana, Meghan Markle and Duchess Kate. Since giving themselves the absurd invented name of “Mountbatten-Windsor”, they have proclaimed that they have surnames, like commoners.

They are not really royal, not in an Albertian sense. Not in the sense of a special caste, set aside for a peculiar role, where more is expected of them than, perhaps, any family can quite provide.

Queen Victoria used to refer to Prince Albert, even before he died, as her “angel”, and an angel, in many ways, he was. In his huge range of talents and abilities, in his devotion to duty, both in private and public, he seemed to be something rather above ordinary human nature.

Yes, one reason for this was that he was as close to being a genius as the British royal family has ever had. But he was helped by the fact that everyone in those days knew what being royal was. It was coming from that inter-related European gene pool, from which he and Victoria descended and into which they married their children.

If his shade returned to the Windsor Castle where he breathed his last in 1861, I wonder if he would regard the present inhabitants as being royal, in his sense, at all.

mrscampbellblackagain · 25/08/2019 14:17

It is just a brief mention of Kate's mysterious feud with a neighbour

Ibiza2015 · 25/08/2019 15:04

Andrew reminds me of princess Margaret, second child syndrome who behave more grandly than the heir to the throne does.

Exactly. And that’s what annoys me most about Harry. He knows all about Margaret, Andrew and Andrew, the problems they caused and how disliked they’d been.

So you would think with such great examples of what not to do as the spare he’d be too savvy to do exactly the same thing. He’s not though, Meghan can’t be expected to have the knowledge about that, but Harry does and him not heeding the examples of the past is going to get him in trouble

NeelixFelicis · 25/08/2019 15:05

www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelist.com/156868/the-truth-about-prince-william-and-rose-hanburys-relationship/%3famp=1

Should be fine posting that link, there's plenty of 'allegedly' and 'rumoured' throughout the article for it to not be libelous.

NeelixFelicis · 25/08/2019 15:08

Male royals having a mistress is hardly something new.
It's practically a job requirement.

Here's another from the archives, W & K may have excellent PR, but he's hardly beyond reproach.

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beanaseireann · 25/08/2019 15:19

Thank you CurlyWurlyTwirly.

derxa · 25/08/2019 15:25

*Neelix^ Idle speculation about Cambridge's marriage is just nasty imo.
What purpose does it serve?

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