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The knives are out for the royal family

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justasking111 · 19/08/2019 14:26

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

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AudacityOfHope · 25/08/2019 15:34

I think it's pertinent because, like The Times article above says, they cling onto their position by anointing themselves our moral betters.

If in fact they're an immoral shower of liars, cheaters, and criminals (as seems pretty obvious at this point) then surely we have the right to know, and make decisions on that basis as to the continuation, or not, of the monarchy.

NeelixFelicis · 25/08/2019 15:58

@derxa I didn't speculate. A pp asked what the article was inferring, I shared a link with no personal comment.

And tbh, even if PW did have an affair, it isn't like KM didn't know what she was potentially getting herself into.
She walked open-eyed (after many years of dating), into marriage with an heir, where there's a long, rich history of heirs taking mistresses.
It's almost expected.

KM looks perfectly happy with her lot, and is still with her DH.

There's the added fact that if she did want to divorce, she couldn't just file for residency of the future King of England & his siblings to go live somewhere else, of course.

But again, she knew all this when she signed up for life with The Firm. I'm sure she's perfectly happy!

LaurieMarlow · 25/08/2019 16:01

Idle speculation about Cambridge's marriage is just nasty imo

So we’re supposed to fund them and turn a blind eye when they behave badly?

Great Confused

LaurieMarlow · 25/08/2019 16:06

Also, William is the future head of the C oE and last time I checked, they weren’t too pro having affairs.

Why everyone isn’t screaming about the hypocrisy of that, I don’t know.

lavenderandthyme · 25/08/2019 16:06

But we don’t know anything for a fact. It’s all idle speculation. Discussing anyone's Marriage like this is a bit distasteful.
If it were a fact that would be different.

noodlenosefraggle · 25/08/2019 16:20

Prince Alberts eldest son was well dodgy on the s sexual confidence front and his youngest son died as a result of his haemophilia I think his opinion on both the moral superiority of the Royal Family and the need for Royalty to marry Royalty can be dismissed fairly swiftly.

derxa · 25/08/2019 16:23

future King of England There's no such title.
Rumours about a man 'getting too close' to another man's wife is just idle tittle tattle. It's a world away from Prince Andrew's stinking behaviour.

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 16:39

NeelixFelicis

The “future king of England”? There is no such title, as has been said. I suggest you revise some history to avoid further laughable gaffes. 🙄

mrscampbellblackagain · 25/08/2019 16:43

I think it is pretty harsh to say someone isn't fit to be head of the c of e because of some gossip to be fair.

I thought previous poster was asking for a link to the specific AN Wilson article not all the general tittle tattle which has been discussed oh so many times on here Smile

But there are those on here for whom MM can do no right and those for whom KM can do no right either.

Luckily we all agree that Andrew is vile Smile

NeelixFelicis · 25/08/2019 17:52

The “future king of England”? There is no such title, as has been said. I suggest you revise some history to avoid further laughable gaffes.

I'm fully aware that "future King of England" isn't an official title, fgs.

As I clearly meant- and you purposefully misunderstood- barring death, abdication or an abolition of the Monarchy, Prince George is directly in the line of succession after his grandfather and his father. Meaning he is, almost certainly, going to be King. In the future. Hope this clears things up!

derxa · 25/08/2019 17:59

King of England isn't a title.

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 17:59

I'm fully aware that "future King of England" isn't an official title, fgs

Do not use it in that case because it is nonsense. HTH

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 18:01

Is there a King of Wales, too? And if we use it erroneously will everyone what we mean?

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 18:02

Is there a King of Wales, too? And if we use it erroneously will everyone understand what we mean?

NoTheresa · 25/08/2019 18:03

Oh and what about King of Scotland? I could go on and on...

The point is accuracy is actually quite important.

derxa · 25/08/2019 18:05

Have you heard of the Union of the Crowns?

LaurieMarlow · 25/08/2019 18:16

i think it is pretty harsh to say someone isn't fit to be head of the c of e because of some gossip to be fair.

Well what are we looking for from the head of the church?

You’d think moral example would be important.

Whatever about Wills (though plenty of smoke and plenty of family form tbf) we pretty well know Charles didn’t keep his wedding vows.

You’d think ppl would care about that.

justasking111 · 25/08/2019 18:22

Anyone who thinks that royalty should marry royalty should study the hapsburg jaw amongst other afflictions marrying cousins causes.

allthatsinteresting.com/habsburg-jaw

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derxa · 25/08/2019 18:26

Yes the Hapsburg jaw. We should never forget it.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 25/08/2019 22:31

Whatever about Wills … we pretty well know Charles didn’t keep his wedding vows. You’d think ppl would care about that

You would, yes - or at least those who feel it's the RF's role to set an example. But once again it falls down over a petulant prince who expects to have exactly what he wants, exactly as he wants it … and all this over a woman he supposedly waited so long for, who now doesn't even wish to live with him

Personally I've always believed there's no lasting happiness to be found by behaving badly, and this seems as good an example as any

LizzieSiddal · 26/08/2019 08:07

I think PC thought he could 100% get away with affairs, as every other POW in history had got away with it.

He thought he’d married a shy, compliant, young women who would put up with it. It must have been quite a shock when he realised she wouldn’t be compliant.

noodlenosefraggle · 26/08/2019 09:31

You would, yes - or at least those who feel it's the RF's role to set an example
The problem is that the RF themselves don't think their role is to set an example to the rest of us, rather than just rule over us, doing what they want while telling us how to live. It's the small time equivalent of Western countries telling India and China that they should not want all their citizens to live with enough food or electricity because of Climate Change, but we still should be able to do so. I don't think they think they should be an example, I think they think they should just 'be' and we should do as we're told.

Mrsjayy · 26/08/2019 10:03

I can't link but ive just been reading Princess Eugenie has put her anti slavery and sex trafficking podcast on the back burner. She is heavily involved in the Anti slavery collective !

Mrsjayy · 26/08/2019 10:09

I think people forget Diana Spencer was 20 when she married prince charles and she was probably hand picked for PC to marry it is alla bit twisted imo she was raised to marry well !

NoTheresa · 26/08/2019 10:13

Poor Princess Eugenie. I actually like her. ConfusedIt must be tough having that for a father.

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