The knives are out for the royal family

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It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

Yes the Prince Andrew scandal is terrible and really he should lose his title and the family should distance themselves from him I wonder when Charles is king , will this indeed happen?
I don’t want to say that he will come out of it unscathed because there is an investigation going on and there are reports he is cooperating with the Feds. So we never know how it will end.

I wonder what will happen to Andrew when Charles is king as well. There's no love lost between them and Andrew is the biggest liability in the family.
I can't believe people are still going on about why TM wasn't at the wedding. I do have to confess that I wonder what he's doing with himself these days. He's clearly learned to keep quiet.

@NeelixFelicis I think you have a point.

It's clear M's family is a mess. That's not her fault. Many people on here could say the same. For me the issue has always been the reinvention of her personal history, how she and H got together etc. I don't want or need to know about her family background, but I'd rather not be lied to about it.

Randy Andy had maxwell in the Palace.
He's upset apparently because boo hoo he may not be able to go to America and oh... He loves it there.

No real contrition. He has moaned before that other royals get away with stuff but he can't and certainly not sat somewhere worried about all the girls whose lives epstein ruined!

Queen I have not seen he is cooperating but that he could be forced to if he goes to the US.

Wonder what they found on epstiens Island...

An ex policeman said he had Ghislaine at the palace and various other ladies (of the night?) the palace have brushed that off because there is a criminal record involved.

Well no police with their pensions to consider will come forward I would think.

You have to remember Diana smuggled folk in, so the police were probably used to it all. Sounds like boarding school to be honest.

I am very dense, I only recently realised that G was Robert Maxwell's daughter. Talk about damned by association.

Op I saw that and how they didn't have to sign people in, it's their home.
Sounds fair enough to me but ghislane with her reputation?
Physically showing young girls what to do to a man! In the Palace...

There was an interesting article in the Guardian yesterday contrasting Andrew's insistence that his daughters live the gilded life of blood princesses with the poor girls who were abused by Epstein. The writer argued Andrew has a two tier view of women.
If Beatrice does get married, I wonder if he'd dare insist on a big white wedding again.

wonder what he's doing with himself these days. He's clearly learned to keep quiet.

I suspect a paid revamp of his image, an agreed period of silence and then a solo (ie no awful siblings) invitation to a well photographed event. Am thinking first birthday.

Armi
Yours is a very perceptive post.
Well said written.

Definalty miss Eliza he clearly doesn't care for the girls at all.

He told a friend off for being a Puritan.
God knows what they got up to in Thailand.

Vile Vile man. He's still so arrogant.

I really hope he is stripped of his title.

I’m sure having a little cry about life on your private jet is nicer than having a little cry about your life on the number 26 bus

Reminds me of a Chinese celeb who said it’s better to cry in the back of the BMW than laugh on the back of a bicycle 😫

I had to smile at the idea of Andrew being obliged to "help the authorities" if he visits the USA. How exactly does anyone imagine that could happen … seize him on arrival perhaps, with all his flunkies around? Arrange a meeting and hope he turns up? Encourage him to meet Ghislaine and bug the room?

It's really not going to happen is it?

MyImaginaryCat It's clear M's family is a mess. That's not her fault. Many people on here could say the same. For me the issue has always been the reinvention of her personal history, how she and H got together etc. I don't want or need to know about her family background, but I'd rather not be lied to about it.

I think she's ideally suited for the RF. Prince Charles apparently has nicknamed her Teflon, because she's made of steel and nothing sticks. She's quite likely rather hard bitten and on the make, and since the RF are like that as well, she probably fits in very well.

The whole lot of them have been behaving badly for so long that I think they detract from the reputation of Britain rather than adding to it.

I think what Andrew fears in the US is a civil
action, not prosecution.

Puzzledandpissedoff
"It's really not going to happen, is it."

Why not ?
He's not above the law.

He's not above the law.

I think de facto he is unfortunately.

He won't answer for it. Even if, in the unlikely event that the press drops this story and rugsweeps it (as they did last time) and the relevant judiciaries saw the situation through to the nth degree, he still wouldn't answer for it.

What's the first thing he's done since this story has continued gaining legs? Swanned off abroad. And whilst in situ abroad, he's intimated that as long as this hangs over him, he'll be unable to return to the US. Ergo, he doesn't intend for their justice system to catch up with him.

IF it transpires that there's a strong likelihood he is deeply compromised as opposed to deeply stupid (or both, as the recent Guardian article rightly points out they're not mutually exclusive) he has some nasty friends in nasty regimes who are rumoured to have similar nasty proclivities to the ones of his previous unpleasant friends.

He has money and he has influence. My betting is that if things ever reached this stage, he'd simply go into exile and never be heard of again. The idea of any Windsor being held to account for any wrongdoing is clearly anathema to these people.

Incidentally, the issue in the US where the judge dismissed the girl's evidence as 'immaterial and impertinent' was a civil case. A criminal case is an entirely different matter.

Have to say, it couldn't have happened to a nicer bloke.

I've never seen any positive reports about Andrew, even before the epstein stuff surfaced.
He seems to epitomise privilege without any redeeming festures. He's everything wrong about the royal family.

Just read AN Wilson’s piece in the times today about the royals. Interesting. First reference, albeit not an explicit one, to Williams affair - sorry, alleged affair.
How much longer do these twats get to ponce about pretending they’re better than the rest of us? Time it ended.

(Andrew's) not above the law

Not in theory perhaps, but his money and connections will make darned sure that's how it is in practice. There's a depressingly long history of the RF avoiding being answerable for anything at all, and they're not going to change that now

MissEliza did raise an interesting point about a possible private prosecution, but no doubt that would be bought off too

Big boil can you post the article at all?

The words, immaterial and impertinent.

Impertinent!

TheBigBagofOil
Can you post a link to that article please.