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The knives are out for the royal family

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justasking111 · 19/08/2019 14:26

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

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MagsAndMaeve · 23/08/2019 15:19

GlitchStitch Her siblings seem toxic. I think her Dad raised her, paid for her private education, had a close relationship with her. I imagine the issue with him was that he was an embarrassment as pp said. He was left flailing, Harry didn't even bother to meet him, and he messed up.

I think he also paid for her first wedding. He certainly walked her down the aisle at it.

It does seem remarkably unbelievable that such a great humanitarian was unable to assist her elderly father in attending her wedding. She has so much and he has so little. He's in his 70s. It is entirely possible that he will die, given his health problems, without ever having met her after she married into the RF.

travellerexpay · 23/08/2019 16:44

That was interesting commentary from the Queen. About being trained, for a job for life.
I think Kate’s very long engagement was part of her «training»
Although they’ve only been married 8 years, she’s been with William for almost 20 years.

Ali1cedowntherabbithole · 23/08/2019 18:15

I laughed at the coverage of Kate & Wills taking Flybe to Scotland.

Next Hazza & Megs on the Megabus

NeelixFelicis · 23/08/2019 19:46

It does seem remarkably unbelievable that such a great humanitarian was unable to assist her elderly father in attending her wedding. She has so much and he has so little. He's in his 70s.

So, he's old. We all age.
MM's father tried to get a quick paycheck by staging photos of himself for the media, souring her upcoming wedding & effectively using her as his personal payday. SM (the sister) seems absolutely horrid too.

I'm not a MM fan, but she owes them nothing. If someone is a disturbing element to your life, you don't pander to their whims at the expense of your own wishes "to be nice". This attitude is why people get walked over.

ssd · 23/08/2019 22:33

I think the fact she has a pretty dysfunctional family endear her to some of us who don't have the perfect family either.
Or maybe that's just me.

LizzieSiddal · 23/08/2019 22:50

Her dad is dreadful. Imagine selling stories about your daughter! That’s unforgivable.

QualCheckBot · 23/08/2019 23:10

Her dad is dreadful. Imagine selling stories about your daughter! That’s unforgivable.

If it had been managed better, it might not have happened. Most ordinary people would struggle with their daughter suddenly marrying into the Royal Family. Harry has never met her father, he wasn't given any assistance to help him prepare by the Palace. What if he dies before she ever sees him again? We all make mistakes, but is that really worth losing your father over?

LizzieSiddal · 23/08/2019 23:23

“We all make mistakes”

😂

Selling stores about your Dd to the press, is not a “mistake”. And he didn’t do it just once, he did it again and again.

He hasn’t done it for a while so maybe they are in contact now and we don’t know about it because he’s learned to stop selling stories about his daughter, to the highest bidder.

QualCheckBot · 23/08/2019 23:30

I do think not bothering to introduce your royal prince husband to be to your father before marrying him in a state wedding is possibly even more inexcusable.

She's a humanitarian, its all about kindness and forgiveness surely?

lavenderandthyme · 24/08/2019 00:57

It is very strange that Harry didn’t want to go and meet M’s father in person before the engagement was announced. He has never met the grandfather of his child and most likely never will now.
Bringing in an elderly man from another culture who was not very well to give his daughter away at a huge wedding watched by millions a few days before the event... just crazy. He would not even have got over his jet lag in time.
He has behaved very badly indeed, but comes across as gullible and not quite the full ticket to be honest. He obviously loved and cared for her throughout her life and was there for her when her mother was mysteriously absent.
I just thought the whole thing was handled incredibly badly by all concerned.

Kublai · 24/08/2019 01:09

He only staged photos of his trying on of an outfit, hardly scandalous. If that was me I would laugh and say good on you for making a few bucks. Lots of celebs stage photos. I expect she wanted to ditch him because he didn’t fit the image. A bit trashy, too fat and scruffy. Poor bloke.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 24/08/2019 02:12

(Meghan's father) was there for her when her mother was mysteriously absent

Which reminds me - does anyone actually know where her mother was? I'm aware of some of the unpleasant gossip, but what I'm asking is if her situation is is known as opposed to rumoured?

Winterlife · 24/08/2019 02:18

Her father didn't have contact with the press until after MM made him persona non grata.

beanaseireann · 24/08/2019 09:33

Puzzledandpissedoff
I wondered that too. Where was she during that time?
Surely some intrepid, investigatve journalist would have a definitive answer.

OutComeTheWolves · 24/08/2019 09:55

Bean as far as I'm aware she was working as a flight attendant.

lavenderandthyme · 24/08/2019 10:27

I find it strange she seems utterly devoted to her mother who didn't bring her up as a teenager anyway. I read she lived with her dad since the age of 11. Those are crucial formative years.

queenofarles · 24/08/2019 10:39

as far as I'm aware she was working as a flight attendant.
never heard that before , Confused
She was a social worker and a yoga instructor I think . worked as a makeup artist on TV sets, owned a business that didn’t last, I think Megan lived with her father because at that Time , Doria worked elsewhere and perhaps living with her father gave her the chance to finish her private school in California.

Thomas may not have conducted himself in the best way, and seems quite vulnerable and confused , but there is no doubt he cared about her, he saved some of his lottery wining for her private schooling, encouraged her to write to Procter and gamble about sexism. And was very involved in her schooling , he used to help with school plays. And up to till recently were very close, he was there at her first wedding.

But I think perhaps it suits her overall image better to concentrate on her mother. Being a single mother , who worked various jobs and is involved in a lot of charities,

lavenderandthyme · 24/08/2019 10:45

Her mother seems to have had a chequered career. She is described as a Psychotherapist in some places, a 'social worker' in others, and she's a yoga teacher now. Was a make up artist when she had Meghan. I also just checked and she was an air stewardess for some time too. Also went bankrupt at some point. She seems to have done a lot of different things and was maybe not the most stable parent for Meghan, yet Meghan seems to give her all the credit now. Her Dad was a good Dad to her in the past and now he's airbrushed out.

lavenderandthyme · 24/08/2019 10:46

I just think she finds him an embarrassment , before the selling the photos debacle.

Armi · 24/08/2019 11:01

Not ‘insta-ready’, is he? If image is everything, then that gentleman just doesn’t fit with the beach-yoga, avocado, lovely-loveliness that seems to be how Meghan likes to present herself.

It’s sad all round, really. Meghan is getting walloped in the press, which is horrible. Harry is no longer viewed by lots of people as being a lovely, engaging and approachable young man, which is a shame because for years he has had a lot of good will from the public. The dust up between the brothers, if true, is rotten for the family. Meghan’s family being a bit of a shambles and her not apparently feeling able to reconcile with her dad is sad as well.

Oh well. I’m sure having a little cry about life on your private jet is nicer than having a little cry about your life on the number 26 bus.

venusmay · 24/08/2019 11:05

Yes the Prince Andrew scandal is terrible and really he should lose his title and the family should distance themselves from him.Its obvious why he was mixed up with Epstein and unless someone else commits suicide and can’t tell the truth then he will be held to account.

queenofarles · 24/08/2019 11:12

I just think it was handled badly from the very beginning, I think if he was brought to the UK way before the wedding , things wouldn’t have gone this bad, I do feel sorry for Meghan In this one, it was like an episode from the Jerry springer show.
That sister and her brother are bad shit crazy!

Dongdingdong · 24/08/2019 11:20

I read something somewhere where one of her friends was saying she isn’t bothered at all by the reaction to her taking private jets. She will just carry on regardless.

Given the strength of the backlash I think they will have no choice but to stop with the private jets now.

NeelixFelicis · 24/08/2019 11:36

I find it strange she seems utterly devoted to her mother who didn't bring her up as a teenager anyway. I read she lived with her dad since the age of 11. Those are crucial formative years.

But I think perhaps it suits her overall image better to concentrate on her mother. Being a single mother , who worked various jobs and is involved in a lot of charities

Also, Doria makes a great image of modernising the archaic RF.

The RF have 1000 years of white ancestry - even the Queen's cousins were abandoned in an asylum to spare family embarrassment.

The first Royal same sex wedding happened last year & nobody from the RF attended. Not even Edward, despite the groom being Lady Louise's godfather.

The media would have had a field day if Thomas Markle was there & the largely absent for childhood Doria wasn't given prominence. They'd have reported the racist RF forced Meghan abandon her black roots to be accepted.
Or else, that MM is ashamed of her ancestry.

No, I think keeping D Ragland as a prominent figure is a well-planned PR move, for both MM and the RF.

choli · 24/08/2019 11:38

I read something somewhere

Proof positive indeed.

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