The knives are out for the royal family

[justasking111]

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

CedarTreeLeaf

Excellent post.

Bloody exceptional post actually

I wonder whether the IRA would be able to shed some light on the Mountbatten story? After all, they had to have been observing him for some time to plan their attack...

@MitziK I think there was a programme about it on the BBC or Channel 4 last night where they interviewed some ex-IRA people.

On the same day that Mountbatten was killed, 18 British soldiers died in 2 bomb blasts in Warrenpoint, Co. Down. One of the slogans doing the rounds after that day went as follows ‘13 dead but not forgotten, we got 18 and Mountbatten.’.
I don’t imagine for one second that his alleged sexual behaviour was in any way even thought about by the IRA.

Didn’t Kevin Spacey also visit an island in the Caribbean to abuse young boys

Blind gossip about 'the island' has been trundling for years in association with Epstein.
Some of the most famous names in the world are linked to it. Shocking names from the director of your favourite movies to brilliant scientific minds.

It's tempting to dismiss it as gossip, but slowly one by one the players are falling and there comes a point where you do have to think 'could there be an element of truth to this?'

The problem with Meghan threads:

Poster A: I don’t like Meghan because I think she’s a hypocrite regarding the environment and she should support British designers instead of spending a fortune on French fashion.

Poster B: I can’t believe you’re being so racist and vile!

Thread is eventually zapped as being ‘not in the spirit.’

Ilovechocolate01

I don't know how he will wriggle out of it but I am absolutely sure that he will. Rich, white influential men will never be held accountable.

I don’t know, look at Harvey Weinstein, granted it took a while.

I think the tides are finally turning, and people previously thought to be protected by their status and money are being held accountable.

I sincerely hope this happens with Prince Andrew. No one should be above the law.

I for one am keeping watch for an announcement of them getting swiftly hitched again in the midst of all this so she doesn't have to testify against him.

I think if he isn't held accountable people will really start to question the royal family and their position in a modern world, and call for them to be abolished. About time really.

Mango I wasn’t disputing the hypocrisy. I was highlighting the dog whistling. Where is all this frothing indignation coming from?

I think you need to use the phrase 'dog whistle' a bit more. 3 times in one post might not have been enough to ensure that every single person is on message.

And I see no 'frothing indignation'. I see people quite sensibly calling out the massive hypocrisy of two public servants lecturing the plebs about climate change and then taking 4 - yes 4 - private jets in quick succession.

If you - by choice - are a member of the world's most famous family, and if you live a luxurious lifestyle at public expense, you're going to come in for criticism as well as fawning adulation. If Meg didn't want that, she could have continued as a cable TV actress with a sideline in lifestyle blogging.

*The problem with Meghan threads:

Poster A: I don’t like Meghan because I think she’s a hypocrite regarding the environment and she should support British designers instead of spending a fortune on French fashion.

Poster B: I can’t believe you’re being so racist and vile!

Thread is eventually zapped as being ‘not in the spirit.’*

In a nutshell.

I find those threads boggling. It’s totally alien to me that criticising anyone who isn’t white is racism. I can’t imagine how posters have come to this conclusion and do wonder what sort of people they associate with, grew up around etc

No one said that any criticism of a non-white person is racist. People have pointed out that some is. But I guess unless you've experienced racism you don't see it so...

How would you know whether I’ve experienced racism? They’re the strange assumptions I’m referring to

Of course

It’s totally alien to me that criticising anyone who isn’t white is racism. I can’t imagine how posters have come to this conclusion and do wonder what sort of people they associate with, grew up around etc

I concur. I think it's a lazy get out and not representative of how the vast majority of us think and live our lives.

CedarTreeLeaf 👏👏👏

I concur. I think it's a lazy get out and not representative of how the vast majority of us think and live our lives.

I think it's also about imposing American obsessions onto British realities.

Absolutely not suggesting that there is no racism here, as that would obviously be nonsense. But race issues are nowhere near as fraught here as they are in America.

Only on Mumsnet is pointing out some cases of racism seen as worse than the racism itself.

Andrew's links to Epstein are absolutely vile and allegations against him seem to be being very quickly brushed under the carpet by the authorities. Anyone else would have been formally interviewed by the police.
As for H and M and their private jets, well, I'd happily have taken the offer of one when my dcs were newborns as nothing is worse than flying with a screaming newborn. However I have never publicly lectured other people about saving the environment. I'd also like to understand what did EJ do to offset the carbon emissions.

Only on Mumsnet is pointing out some cases of racism seen as worse than the racism itself

Except you haven't posted out any actual cases of racism.

MN has a very strict policy about racist abuse. If there were any such comments here, they would have been swiftly deleted and likely the whole thread would have been pulled. However, because there haven't been any racist posts here, that has not happened. Hence your whole premis is invalid.

As for H and M and their private jets, well, I'd happily have taken the offer of one when my dcs were newborns as nothing is worse than flying with a screaming newborn.

Even in first or business class with a row full of staff to cater to your every need?

And it's not like they had to fly. They'd just returned from a holiday in Ibiza (private jet too), so there was absolutely zero need to jet off to Nice. Not to mention that royals aren't supposed to accept freebies. If they can live off the private wealth of others, why do they need taxpayers' money at all?

MN has a very strict policy about racist abuse.

Maybe the overt stuff but racism isn't just men in white hoods burning crosses these days.

I don't care who you are. If you're hanging out with a notorious paedophile that is most definitely in the public interest to print. If the press had had the balls to print it at the time there may have been some justice for victims.

Andrew's links to Epstein are absolutely vile and allegations against him seem to be being very quickly brushed under the carpet by the authorities. Anyone else would have been formally interviewed by the police.

Which police though? The British police don't have jurisdiction and he is not resident in America. Not to mention that there are many other high-profile Americans linked to the Epstein scandal, and none of them have been interviewed by the police either.