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The knives are out for the royal family

999 replies

justasking111 · 19/08/2019 14:26

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

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Rachelover40 · 20/08/2019 03:55

I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. They're human beings and make mistakes like anyone else but is any of it really newsworthy? I don't think so, gossip-mongering is a more apt description (though I admit to not knowing what the current gossip is and don't really want to).

Aren't we all glad that we don't live our lives with paparazzi crawling out of the woodwork all the time? I certainly am, I like my life and wouldn't swap with the royals for all the tea.

LesserofTwoWeevils · 20/08/2019 03:58

Wonder why the press are poking at Mountbatten now in particular. Is there a time period that’s expiring?

Some of the FBI files on him have just been released, though some are still closed.

That's the only relevant time period. You can't libel the dead.

MangoFeverDream · 20/08/2019 05:40

Go on Meghan and Harry, drive them nuts. Do what makes you happy

I suspect that they want an adoring public, especially Harry who was the most popular royal for years. It’s sad, he could have easily surpassed his brother, who is kind of a charisma vacuum, but they’ve made some questionable decisions that has really damaged their humanitarian credentials.

chomalungma · 20/08/2019 06:49

He got a AAC at A Level, C in Biology. The math/science A Levels are notoriously hard as well as most people who pick them are gifted in science so they make them very difficult

The Duke of Cambridge received 12 GCSEs and three A-levels in Geography (A), History of Art (A) and Biology (C)

No mention of maths there and a C in Biology. Still, not bad really.

Pamplemousecat · 20/08/2019 07:35

Harry is like an over grown rich gap year kid wearing friendship bracelets, trying to be woke, worthy and lefty, whilst being a massive bloody hypocrite and an appalling example. It’s just embarrassing

Gobbolinocat · 20/08/2019 07:41

So much like his fellow woke lefty hypocrites then, he's in good company.

Gobbolinocat · 20/08/2019 07:44

Hang on big choc frenzy, leavers have already been told by pp that they are royalists and support gas guzzling peado supporters to boot, but now they don't support the royals. Confused

Pamplemousecat · 20/08/2019 07:45

Someone earlier mentioned that the only reason people criticise Meghan is because of her mum’s colour. It simply is not true. Do people not see what they are doing when they say things like this. Stop being purposefully disingenuous and not allowing healthy debate. There is no evidence for this at all. Being in an ethnic minority doesn’t mean that people are immediately beyond reproach for any of their actions in life. We need a level playing field here and a bit of fairness please. She is criticised for her fake ness, her pushy demeanour, her hypocrisy, she is clearly in this for what she can get so please please please stop doing this now. Enough.

SheStoopsToConker · 20/08/2019 07:48

She is criticised for her fakeness, her pushy demeanour, her hypocrisy, she is clearly in this for what she can get

You know her personally then?

Gobbolinocat · 20/08/2019 07:51

Oh OK not my real name.

I thought it was just another comment from self declaring woke leaning lefty polishing the invisible halo badge who would rather talk about some irritating hypocrisy rather than the very deeply disturbing pa story.

Re good lawyers, why would they need them. They have video footage and pictures. Roberts has said she had to sleep with him 3 times.

It's all out there Confused

What would they be sued for?

Gobbolinocat · 20/08/2019 08:06

Ssd and wild orchid, I agree. The rest is chicken feed compared to Prince Andrew, right now.

Maybe the enormity of the epstein thing hasn't sunk in yet. I wonder if he'd been caught in the same way but with micheal Jackson if that would resonate more?

Re pa not caring and his mummy protecting him, I think he would care about his daughters? And what they think of him?

QueenofmyPrinces · 20/08/2019 08:22

Harry is like an over grown rich gap year kid wearing friendship bracelets, trying to be woke, worthy and lefty, whilst being a massive bloody hypocrite and an appalling example. It’s just embarrassing

Grin

I don’t have any opinion on Meghan. I don’t like her or dislike her but I can see why she might rub people up the wrong way. The impression she gives isn’t particularly a good one.

Harry though..... I used to really like Harry, he was the “People’s Prince”, down to earth, likeable, not pretentious, and misdemeanours aside, generally a likeable seeming guy.

Now thought I just find him hard to warm too. As a couple, he and Meghan come across as very snooty, as though they think they are better than everyone else and generally just very arrogant.

This Private Jet incident is a prime example. Like you say, they are just an embarrassment to themselves.

derxa · 20/08/2019 08:24

And what they think of him? They seem like nice women but hopelessly naive. They've been brainwashed from birth by their parents- a pair of absolute shysters

SheStoopsToConker · 20/08/2019 08:27

The impression she gives isn’t particularly a good one.

What have you that impression @QueenofmyPrinces? Because when I saw her with the women from the Hubb kitchen and Smartworks etc, she seemed genuinely interested and engaged. And the way they were with her said a lot too - it was all very natural and warm and I don't think they would've been like that if she was standoffish.

Xalia · 20/08/2019 08:28

What with the obsessive, hatred filled posts spewing out from IcedPurple and the incessant immature rantings of Pamplemousecat, this thread has been highly entertaining.
Wine Wine

Thanks guys but seriously Icedpurple, maybe a bit of counselling?

Rhubarbisevil · 20/08/2019 08:39

I have read The Sun article about the Mountbattens. My goodness, Edwina looks cross and angry in the photos of her early years of marriage. Let me know if you want me to provide a link.

Hithere12 · 20/08/2019 08:43

The Duke of Cambridge received 12 GCSEs and three A-levels in Geography (A), History of Art (A) and Biology (C)

No mention of maths there and a C in Biology. Still, not bad really

Can’t you read? I said the C was in biology

ssd · 20/08/2019 08:46

The Palace must be hoping ordinary people like us on here continue to get bogged down in discussions about how nasty Megan really is or how William is a cheater.. Cos we really KNOW .... And if you don't like Megan you're RASCIST... Or anti American.... Or lefty and woke....

It's pathetic.

Meanwhile the real stuff concerning Andrew and Mountbatten, the stuff they desperately want to keep hidden, will hopefully get lost amongst all the comments about Elton John's tweets and Kates dress costs. The Palace won't mind us knowing that shite, that's harmless, but the real serious stuff they'll be working overtime to hide.

ssd · 20/08/2019 08:50

Referencing a Sun article is about as low as you can get

Are you serious Rhubarbisevil?

It's not his marriage that was the problem.

SheStoopsToConker · 20/08/2019 08:52

To be fair @ssd, I think the issues like Andrew's dodgy friendships and Mountbatten's alleged interest in young boys are what we should be talking about but it always gets derailed by people raging at Meghan's "fakeness" or bump-clutching or wearing of nail varnish.

AudacityOfHope · 20/08/2019 08:59

@BigChocFrenzy I don't know any American friends who don't say please.

Maybe your family is rude

MangoFeverDream · 20/08/2019 09:03

The Palace must be hoping ordinary people like us on here continue to get bogged down in discussions about how nasty Megan really is or how William is a cheater

Maybe, but Prince Andrew won’t be protected forever. NYPD may have a few (American) politicians to protect, but they won’t mind throwing an irrelevant prince under the bus if they have the goods (they almost certainly do)

QE is hoping it will go away, but she needs to be under constant public pressure to strip his entitlements away. He will only damage the future prospects of the RF (not that I care about their longevity, mind)

Randy Andy is a real shitstorm, the crass antics of the younger royals mere flies circling it.

IsobelRae23 · 20/08/2019 09:06

Obviously hypothetical question:- if a plane is at risk of a terrorist attack, jets come in to escort it, and if what I have read is correct, they will take the plane down, before even more loss of lives on the ground.

If that’s the case, would they do it if it was a Royal plane? If there was Royals onboard? Or do they get different treatment?

SchadenfreudePersonified · 20/08/2019 09:12

I read that the postmortem showed that his hyoid bone was broken, which is common in strangulation but not hanging apparently.

If this is true then is certainly DOES suggest strangulation as a distinct possibility.

R. Keerthi and Abdulhaseeb Quadri explored the issue in a 2016 article called Hyoid Bone Fracture: Associated With Head and Neck Trauma—A Rare Case Report. It was published by J. Maxillofac Oral Surg.

“Fractures of hyoid bone resulting from trauma other than strangulation are very rare,” they reported. “Hyoid bone fracture associated with panfacial trauma are even rarer. They occur more frequently in young individuals, and in men more than in women.” They added: “In general hyoid bone fractures are reported to occur in 50 % of cases of manual strangulation or of ligature strangulation and in 27 % of hanging.”

I would imagine that they'd look at the bruising pattern, too, though.

I wouldn't be surprised if Epstein did take his own life - whatever the result of the investigations into his behaviour and the court case, he wasn't going to go back to being the Apha-mover-and-shaker he had been - his rich friends would have melted away like snow of a summer roof once they had ensured he couldn't incriminate them.

Equally it wouldn't surprise me if someone had decided that it was too risky to let things go any further - the sort of money, entitlement and influence involved here wouldn't balk at arranging an "accident", I'm sure.

PeculiarBerries · 20/08/2019 09:14

Regardless of Andrew's behaviour and Mountbatten's alleged sexual deviancy, Harry and Meghan should not be trying to impose their unsoliticed opinion on the British population, however well intended.