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The knives are out for the royal family

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justasking111 · 19/08/2019 14:26

It may be deserved in some cases, however it would seem the gloves are off as far as the media are concerned. They have lived high on the hog for centuries so what is new?

Am scratching my head here is it shoot the royal family season or a smoke and mirrors exercise designed to distract us from something more important??

I would hate to be in the PR business with the RF just now.

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ssd · 19/08/2019 22:20

Puzzledandpissedoff, couldn't agree more.
Of course Andrew will recover, he'll remarry fergie and they'll all be out waving the union jack for the latest royal wedding, I predict next year....
This will all be brushed under the carpet.

ssd · 19/08/2019 22:23

Notmyrealname855, money talks, pure and simple.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/08/2019 22:23

Some shitty comments on here from people who clearly have never met any actual normal American people

There always are, Audacity - America-bashing's sadly very popular on MN

I do wonder if PPs are right about H&M planning a future over there though; it's true there'd be competition, but with the right contacts they could make enough to bankroll themselves for an awfully long time. After all Fergie seems to make a decent enough living hawking herself around - though maybe her ongoing association with Andrew helps to keep the brand alive?

ssd · 19/08/2019 22:28

Fergie is obviously useful as a back up when andrew needs pulled out a tight hole and she's more than happy to keep the pretence up as it keeps her in the lifestyle she likes. I just seen on the news they are both on holiday together in the Costa del sol as we speak. Probably laughing at the commeners cheek in discussing them.

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 22:29

After all Fergie seems to make a decent enough living hawking herself around

I'm not sure if shilling for Weight Watchers and being bailed out by Epstein is quite the glittering future Meghan has in mind for herself.

with the right contacts they could make enough to bankroll themselves for an awfully long time.

Not sure about that either. Their sundry hangers-on like Elton cultivate them for their royal connection. Absent that, it's unlikely too many A listers would be beating a path to their door.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/08/2019 22:32

With Epstein... literally how did he fly all over the world with these children? It makes you wonder at the border checks anyone bothers doing when you’re rich and famous...

I think you'll find private jet passengers avoid going through security with the rest of us proles, having their documents checked, taking their belts off and worrying about that lighter they left in their cabin baggage

Their money buys a very different experience, and I've no doubt the staff will have let through a lot more than Epstein in their time

Toooldnowx · 19/08/2019 22:33

I wouldn't worry about Meghan and Harry. Worry about the one who apparently cheated on his wife. While some are going wild hating their relationship, they seem happy to turn a blind eye to the real sad story that's behind the Palace walls.

Toooldnowx · 19/08/2019 22:36

Go on Meghan and Harry, drive them nuts. Do what makes you happy. Do the exact opposite of what the expect. The majority loves it when you ignore their infantile loathing.

Drive them nuts!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/08/2019 22:39

I'm not sure if shilling for Weight Watchers and being bailed out by Epstein is quite the glittering future Meghan has in mind for herself

You could well be right - also about the motives of the hangers-on - but I suppose I was thinking they could make enough to live reasonably well if they're able to keep up bankable connections with the RF

However, I guess "enough" might not be considered sufficient by folk used to having exactly what they want, exactly as they want it

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 22:40

Go on Meghan and Harry, drive them nuts.

Meghan and Harry aren't reading.

They don't care about you, or any other of their die-hard fans.

Though I'd imagine the infantile style of your posts would be right up their street, were they bothered to read them.

ssd · 19/08/2019 22:43

Megan or Kate and their families aren't the story here. The story is Andrew and what he's been doing, whilst living in luxury with taxpayers money.
And mountbattens story is due to come out soon too.
Makes Megan's excesses or Kate luxury holidays chicken feed.

IcedPurple · 19/08/2019 22:45

You could well be right - also about the motives of the hangers-on - but I suppose I was thinking they could make enough to live reasonably well if they're able to keep up bankable connections with the RF

Live reasonably well by the standards of normal people? Sure.

Live reasonably well, if 'reasonably well' means private jets and custom Givenchy? Nope. Or certainly not for very long. Harry is fairly poor by rich people standards, and much of his money is likely held down in trusts or other funds. If he were to sever connections with the royals, as he'd likely have to be if he bunked off to Los Angeles, he'd lose not only the one thing which makes him and Meghan interesting, but also the main source of his funds.

Which is why I really don't think it's going to happen. And why would it? From what I can see, they seem to be getting away with all sorts of behaviour more fitting of tacky celebs than public servants (which is what the royals are meant to be), while still benefitting from all the many perks of their royal status. Sounds like a pretty sweet deal. Not even Harry is thick enough to trade that in for fighting it out in the celebrity marketplace with sundry Kardashians and whatever wannabes the future throws up.

ssd · 19/08/2019 22:45

When was fergie bailled out by epstein?

Pamplemousecat · 19/08/2019 22:46

Grin @Toooldnowx thanks for this post I’m crying laughing!!! “ drive ‘em nuts.. hazza and megs!” Are you their bestie? Are you actually Elton? Grin

travellerexpat · 19/08/2019 22:46

I think Meghan did target Harry, she did a couple of humanitarian trips (India & Rwanda). She definitely did her prep before they started seriously dating; to make sure she had the right profile for him.

This trip,to Rwanda was in October 2016 2 months after she met Harry and she blogged about it on the Tig.

She has morphed herself into the perfect woman for Harry. Before she was into food, travel, fashion. Her blog was a version of Goop.

She is clever and knows exactly how to get what she wants. The B list actress Meghan Markle could never of dreamt of having 8 million Instagram followers, editing Vogue, mixing with Alisters.

Likewise Harry was managed by William’s team; the Kensington Palace «grey men». Now the Sussexes have their own team; there is no one to tell them to tone it down. Hence Harry ( not the brightest spark) lecturing on the climate then jumping on private jets.
They both have access to the A list Celebrity world and the RF endless privilege solely due to their unearned Titles.
Meghan is making sure their profile in the US is maintained, so that they can live in North America; I suspect for extended periods. They will never relinquish their titles because that’s their golden ticket.

ssd · 19/08/2019 22:48

Of course Harry would never give up his royal status, they royals all stick together, they know there's safety in numbers.

travellerexpat · 19/08/2019 22:53

Absolutely nothing is going to happen to Prince Andrew.
The Royals protect their own.

I think however there are lots of titbits about lesser royals thrown to the Press, such as Zara & Peter being bankrolled by a Far Eastern investor, to detract.

Come September when they’re all back at « work» thevstories will die down.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 19/08/2019 23:11

Not even Harry is thick enough to trade (his current lifestyle) in for fighting it out in the celebrity marketplace

Maybe not, especially as he's had a lifetime of sycophancy and his every demand catered to so knows nothing else. But there's little to stop his wife saying "b**ger the lot of you", returning to America and hitting up every contact for whatever she can make

Remembering that she barely knew Harry before marrying him and taking on a wholly alien lifestyle - something for which I largely blame him - it might even be seen as a good trade-off for just three years of effort

Toooldnowx · 19/08/2019 23:19

I don't care that Harry and Meghan cares or doesn't care about me. But the lot of you who belly ache about what they do or don't do surely care to the point where it's ridiculous and embarrassing. The majority realise that some of you must have very deep seated unhappiness in your lives to find pleasure in investing some much time spewing bile.

I hope Harry and Meghan continue to drive you haters mad. Make you spend each waking moment looking at stories about them and draining you of your joy by causing you to spend your time uselessly complaining about them.

Can't you see, no one at the Palace is listening? Why? Because they know you are in the minority. Moreover the Queen knows the strength of the monarchy lies in appealing to the Commonwealth as well. Harry and Meghan are a massive hit with the Commonwealth.

You go Harry and Meghan. Drive them wild with envy and hatred until there bile causes them to explode with rage.

Grin
ssd · 19/08/2019 23:23

Toooldnowx

Are you OK?

Toooldnowx · 19/08/2019 23:25

One other thing: do you seriously think that Harry and Meghan did not expect or think about the fact that some people would hate their union with a passion? They saw it even before they got married.

They went in with their eyes wide open knowing there are people like some of you out there. Do you seriously think they are surprised by the hate? Please, some of you are kidding yourselves to think the Palace was not expecting this. They just keep showing time and time again that they are not going to bow to ludicrous hatred.

SheStoopsToConker · 19/08/2019 23:25

Meghan has a high handed and dismissive attitude towards normal British people and has no real interest in them.

What, like the women who run the Hubb kitchen @Ibiza2015? Or the women who use Smartworks? Or the sex workers One25 help out? Yes the banana writing was cringe but it resulted in a massive increase in donations for the charity.

Hithere12 · 19/08/2019 23:28

It’s not the media, it’s the readers. Any negative story on Meghan gets thousands of hate comments (on Mail online) compared to their other stories which get a few hundred.

Which in turn means more money from advertising (as it’s clearly getting more clicks)

I used to think it was a big media conspiracy and they disliked her but they’re just doing what makes them money.

Toooldnowx · 19/08/2019 23:29

I'm very okay. Just enjoying reading the unhappiness and belly aching that have no effect on Meghan and Harry. Just lost of hot air from unhappy people.

I am not a Royalist. Never was and never will be but the constant whinging by some about Harry and Meghan amuses me and 8 can't help but wonder what benefit is there to the people who whinge yet find that no one cares, certainly not the Queen nor Harry or Meghan. Worse, the one who is held up as all things nice and honourable is up to no good with his wife's best friend. History will tell us all about it and we'll see who has the last laugh.

Hithere12 · 19/08/2019 23:31

I will just say that they need to shut up about climate change. Pick any cause apart from that one to talk about. They are making themselves a target when their carbon footprint is probably 1000x worse than the average persons. It just makes them come across as morons.