To think Mr Big really is a shit?

[MirandaOnce]

I used to watch Sex and the City and think Big was the ideal man. Handsome, wealthy etc., but I'm rewatching the entire series now and he's just awful to Carrie. Why does she put up with it and keep going back to him?!

Not that she's much better.

I’ve always hated Big. I don’t think Carrie is much better.

Miranda wasn't broke. She had to move to Brooklyn to afford a family home.

I think the tension with Kim Catrall and SJP came from the fact that Catrall was the only well known actor when it started and expected higher pay.

Big was awful, I've rewatched them loads and can't stand him. I'm still mad at Carrie for doing what she did to Aiden (am I taking this too seriously? 😂) but found the Russian really creepy and Berger, oh Berger, such a whining miserable man!

I remember at the time it seemed so ground breaking. Now it just seems a bit dated- not stood the passing of time well. (Unlike, say, Friends).

Oh, and Carrie’s clothes! How come none of her friends said ‘what are you wearing?’?

IT IS A MADE UP STORY.FFS.

It’s weird isn’t it. I used to absolutely love it as a twenty something and loved all the characters.

As a now 40 year old my perspective is quite different....!

Smith was amazing, the way he dealt with Samantha’s cancer particularly when her libido ( which was always such a big part of her and their relationship) waned. When he left her the plant and said he’d wait ‘until spring’ rather than sleep with someone on set when he went away. It was just a lovely way to do it. Big fan of him.

IT IS A MADE UP STORY.FFS.

I don’t understand what your point is. Are people not supposed to have opinions about fictional works?

IT IS A MADE UP STORY.

What? Nobody told me! I thought it was a spy-cam based documentary!

My entire life is a sham.

He's a complete shit but I cheered when after

'Go get our girl'

He rescued her from the odious little 'Ruski'

I think the dragged it out way to long especially with 'the films, when I first started watching SATC I was in my 20,s and single,and had several flings ,short relationships, lots of angsty phone calls with my friends about wether the current man I was seeing,dating etc really liked me so I could relate the thing is most people grow up and settle down but by the time films came out even though most of them were in relationship,s and Charlotte and Miranda had kids ,they were still doing the same old tired routines Which is fine in your 20,s not so much 40,s and 50,s

When she tackled big in the hotel, I laughed a lot at that.

*He's a complete shit but I cheered when after

'Go get our girl'

He rescued her from the odious little 'Ruski'*

Personallly, I hated that bit.

All about the damsel in distress having to be rescued by a big (!) strong man.

More than a little anti French bias thrown in too. Petrowsky seemed fairly OK, if a little arrogant, until he went back to Paris. And all the cliches about snotty Parisiens saying 'magnifique' a lot.

IT IS A MADE UP STORY.FFS.

You must be a real delight at your book group. Or at the cinema, where everyone is labouring under the delusion that The Lion King is a documentary based on observation of real talking lions in the wild.

I haven't watched it since its original broadcast, so can't actually remember much, but . . .

SarahAndQuack Wed 07-Aug-19 20:05:45
I also hated that Steve is effectively the writers' way of taking Miranda down a peg or two. Dare to be a successful, high-earning, attractive lawyer with rather fewer neuroses than your friends? You will have to fall in love with a man who earns much less (! the horror!), and whose mother is shite to you.

My memory of how I saw it was that she was doing what a successful man does - marry someone who earns less, isn't threatened by your success and is happy to the be the primary carer of your child(ren) so you can progress your career unhindered. I thought she was the one who cracked it. (Although obviously I can't say for certain that I wouldn't change my mind on this if I ever do rewatch it. :) )

Oh, and I have never felt the need to watch the films, I was happy the way the programme ended and didn't want to tarnish any memories.

Can I ask where you’re all watching?? I’ve been requesting it to be added to Netflix for years.

My memory of how I saw it was that she was doing what a successful man does - marry someone who earns less, isn't threatened by your success and is happy to the be the primary carer of your child(ren) so you can progress your career unhindered. I thought she was the one who cracked it.

I agree. I was actually quite surprised at the earlier comment. So if a woman marries a great guy who happens to be a lower earner than her, that's some sort of come-down? Why? Miranda had a demanding job and made plenty of money for herself and her family. Why did she need to 'marry up'?

Carrie was far worse than he was.

I haven’t watched it for ages but I feel like I need a catch up. I rewatched Gilmore girls the other day. I think Rory turned out to be such a spoiled vile person.. they totally destroyed her character.

Steve was the best by far!

@Turnedouttoes I asked that about 2 pages back but nobody's told me yet

My rule is to disregard the existence of the films so that Steve is still a good 'un. Hated that they trashed him in the film to basically a) give Miranda a storyline and b) so that Big wasn't the only male partner being a shit.

Steve was right for Miranda because he was very different to her but accepted and admired those differences. He wasn't threatened by her being ambitious and successful - his problem was where that meant she had no time at all for him, and that's what they needed to resolve.

I'm about to start watching this again.
For the millionth time.

I love it.

I'm not sure if it's that the show hasn't aged well or if my perspective on life has changed.

I remember watching it as a naive 20 something with only one boyfriend to speak of.

Now, I have a son, I've been dating and matured.

I think that's the difference.

Big is a twat and Carrie is an even bigger one. They deserve each other.

So if a woman marries a great guy who happens to be a lower earner than her, that's some sort of come-down? Why? Miranda had a demanding job and made plenty of money for herself and her family. Why did she need to 'marry up'?

Obviously, in real life it's not a 'come down' in the slightest, unless you've drunk some really unpleasantly essentialist Kool-Aid. But we're talking about a TV show writers' decision and I do think those posters who say that Steve, while a decent man, is intended as a 'come down' for the high-powered, independent, career-minded Miranda have a point -- she ends the series living in Brooklyn (before it was cool) looking after her MIL with dementia.

But we're talking about a TV show writers' decision and I do think those posters who say that Steve, while a decent man, is intended as a 'come down' for the high-powered, independent, career-minded Miranda have a point -- she ends the series living in Brooklyn (before it was cool) looking after her MIL with dementia.

Those kinds of things happen in real life though. And it's not like looking after her MIL was the only thing going on in her life - she had a husband who loved her (even if - the horror! - he was 'just' a bar man), a child, a high-earning job she loved, and great friends. Not too shabby.

Charlotte 'married up' and her first husband turned out to be a disaster.