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To wonder why the disappearance of Nora Quoirin....

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LEELULUMPKIN · 07/08/2019 12:13

Is not getting far more media coverage?

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EmeraldShamrock · 11/08/2019 13:26

I agree young people are not always publicized properly.
Especially local teens they often away by choice.
It is very different with SN missing in a foreign country, who more than likely will hide than help solve a crime.

EmeraldShamrock · 11/08/2019 13:27

*Run away

Strawberrycreamsundae · 11/08/2019 13:49

I'm praying she's safe too but it just seems really odd to me:

  1. Nora's very shy and has poor mobility
  2. The opened window is downstairs and she was sleeping upstairs
  3. Presumably she wouldn't willingly walk downstairs and climb out a window with a stranger - why not use the door? Equally surely she'd have left via the door if she's wandered off?
  4. If they'd only just arrived who was watching them and earmarked Nora for an abduction?
  5. Why virtually no signs of her/anyone else's footprints or tyre prints? Why the police reluctance re abduction v leaving of her own volition?
  6. Why didn't /couldn't she make made a noises? If drugged surely the abductor(s) would have struggled to man handle a teenager out through the window?

I'm just thinking aloud really but to me it asks many more questions than answers, very sad and unimaginably horrific for her family.

pensionpot · 11/08/2019 14:05

Think the window could only be opened from inside , hence why the police didn't think it was an abduction at first

InTheHeatofLisbon · 11/08/2019 15:31

Apparently a window was left open in the complex (I don't know the set up of where they were staying) and it was implied that it wasn't down to Nora's family.

She must be so scared, out there without her mum and dad. It's awful.

EmeraldShamrock · 11/08/2019 16:49

It is so sad, there is little hope she will be found alive, I hope she is found either way.

Legoroses · 11/08/2019 21:27

I can't stop thinking about her. I pray that she is found. Her poor poor parents. And siblings. God bless them. It's just so horrific. Beyond imagining.

Whoops75 · 11/08/2019 22:00

What ages are her siblings?

Awful coincidence if she went to close the window and a bad person happened to be there.

Legomadx2 · 11/08/2019 22:09

When I say the reporting's off, I mean we haven't been told as much as we were, say, when Madeleine McCann disappeared, for example. It feels like something is being held back. Not for any dodgy reason, unless it's discrimination about SEN maybe? I don't know. Like I said, I can't put my finger on it.

I don't for one moment think her parents are to blame in any way. My heart truly goes out to them. I cannot begin to imagine their anguish and I can't bring myself to watch the video of that poor woman's appeal for her little girl.

Knitwit99 · 11/08/2019 23:56

It just seems so completely completely random. The MM case seems slightly less random- they were in a busier place, they had been there longer, it seems much more plausible that a bad person could have checked everything out and been waiting to seize an opportunity, smaller sleeping child to potentially carry away.

It seems much less like that here, they were in a much more remote place, they had only just arrived, she was larger and heavier, if someone was waiting for an opportunity to take her that is a spectacular coincidence and almost unbelievable bad luck (luck is a really bad choice of words I know). But her family are totally convinced she didn't wander off by herself. So where is she? Could it have been a taxi driver who dropped the family off and knew they were there?

The reporting seems different because there aren't endless photos and diagrams and theories on the main news, not in Scotland anyway. Is that because of remoteness, are the family just not so willing or able to be on tv every day, is Nora not so young and cute, I don't know. I still couldn't tell you what her parents' jobs are for example, it seemed that everyone knew every detail about the McCanns by day 2.

Whatever happened, I really hope she is found. How your world can change in the blink of an eye, nothing is guaranteed for any of us.

notacooldad · 12/08/2019 00:00

it seemed that everyone knew every detail about the McCanns by day 2
Didnt the McCans brief their relatives almost immediately about how to talk to Sky news etc? They appeared very media savvy.

ChopinIn10Minuets · 12/08/2019 00:09

It's awfully sad, but TBH I think the level and nature of the publicity that was generated by the McCann case was a double edged sword. There's only so far publicity can go, especially after time has elapsed, and the last thing these parents need is the kind of ill-informed judgement that has plagued the McCanns.

I'm keeping fingers crossed for some kind of resolution.

neveradullmoment99 · 12/08/2019 00:09

I agree with lots of comments that others have made.
Why was the window used?
How did nobody hear anything?Its not like she was a young child but a 15 year old girl. Maybe she wandered downstairs and something happened there?
How did anyone know they were there? I mean to check things out? They were there for such a short time.
The BBC doesn't have much about on on their online news page.
I have to google it to find out news.

They are saying she was barefoot and in her nightie. They are also saying that there are dangerous animals in the jungle and they think that she may not survive with that in mind :(
Terrible.

jennymanara · 12/08/2019 00:12

And there were reporters at the McCanns complex. Easy and cheap for reporters to get there. This is a remote place that is hard to get to.

I do think it seems now as if she may have wandered off.

neveradullmoment99 · 12/08/2019 00:13

No, not after this report:
Police are investigating all angles, including reports that villagers heard the sound of a truck early on the morning the girl was reported missing.
Detectives have searched the homes of staff working on the resort and have interviewed the taxi driver who picked up the family from Kuala Lumpur Airport last week.

neveradullmoment99 · 12/08/2019 00:14

Sounds like there is more to this. That extract was from the Irish sun.

jennymanara · 12/08/2019 00:16

The Detectives should be pursuing all angles. But getting a 15 year old girl physically out of a villa her family is sleeping in, without waking anyone or leaving any physical evidence, does seem unlikely.

Whoops75 · 12/08/2019 00:18

I do think it seems now as if she may have wandered off.

I’m inclined to agree

Unless it was an inside job at the resort, someone who had access to guest details.
They could have planned the abduction before they had even arrived.

neveradullmoment99 · 12/08/2019 00:20

I totally agree...but what happened then? Maybe she went down to get a drink or was disturbed by something. Maybe someone was downstairs and something happened then? so many questions its hard not to speculate.

jennymanara · 12/08/2019 00:23

I actually get slightly irritated when people say a missing child case has not had as much coverage as Madeleine. I am in my 50s and I can not think of any case of a missing child that has had as much press coverage as Madeleine. So it is a false comparison.
Of course though the family want as much press coverage as possible.

jennymanara · 12/08/2019 00:25

More likely she saw an animal and went to investigate. Maybe an animal that is unusual to see? There is dense forest, and it would be easy to get lost very quickly, especially in the dark.

neveradullmoment99 · 12/08/2019 00:28

@jenny, there a loads of children that go missing in the UK:

According to the charity Missing People, more than 140,000 children go missing each year in the UK. And children between the ages of 12 and 17 make up for more than half of all missing people incidents

Sadly there is no press for them.

neveradullmoment99 · 12/08/2019 00:29

They are frightening numbers.

jennymanara · 12/08/2019 00:31

I know. That is because most of them are home within a week. Truly missing in terms of no one has an idea of where they are and what has happened over a period of time, is actually very rare.
Even before they are home, many of these children will have been reported as been seen at certain locations by friends. They are vulnerable, but they are not missing in the way Nora is.

notacooldad · 12/08/2019 00:35

I've just clicked on to the Daily Mail page and it's the first news story there and it's been updated.