To ask leavers if they would vote differently now it's looking like no deal?

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And as such should we go for another referendum?

I voted to remain and would continue to do so even if a deal was possible. However it is apparent that a deal isn't going to happen. Was it ever really going to be possible?

Would that change the mind of leavers? Or even remainers?

I would prefer to see no deal (even though I know its shit) than for this car crash to continue in slow motion any further.

I voted Remain, fervently. Did not do much research before voting; it was more a knee-jerk, gut decision based on liking the status quo (a commonly held reason i think) and prior to the referendum, believing all Leavers were UKIP voters (or worse, BNP).

Once I recovered from the shock of the referendum result, the last three years have been illuminating to say the least. Sane, rational and highly intelligent friends (as in extremely well educated, well travelled, cosmopolitan and successful) have revealed themselves to be Leavers. I had to rethink my prejudices.

I have spent three years reading widely about and around the subject and - like most people here I should imagine - following the news closely.

The upshot is that if there referendum were held again, i would vote Leave.

I am not even that terrified by No Deal.

I genuinely think it will be ok - and much better that we leave now rather than stumble along, extension after extension, perhaps never leaving and creating a resentment and division that makes the current situation seem like a tea party.

I voted leave and would vote leave whatever.

I'm a Bennite.

I find the hypocrisy of Plaid Cymru and the SNP incomprehensible - 'we want self-government! By a bunch of people far, far away!'

To be fair Christmas I would rather be governed by almost anyone than the current British government so I have quite a lot of sympathy with them.

I find the hypocrisy of Plaid Cymru and the SNP incomprehensible - 'we want self-government! By a bunch of people far, far away!'

1. They wouldn't be "governing" us.
2. They would be us (in part). It's almost as if you have absolutely no idea how the EU works.

We're not governed by the EU though, we're a member of the EU. People seem to really not understand how it all works.

perhaps never leaving and creating a resentment and division that makes the current situation seem like a tea party.

Going to happen either way. If we leave, especially with no deal, and we're in a recession and people lose their jobs, cost of petrol and food rockets, etc etc (you can hear the Bank of England governor explaining what will happen on r4 today programme today) then those 16 million plus people who wanted to remain, and other remainers who didn't vote, and leavers who've switched to remain, will be mighty pissed off.

Difference between EU and Westminster is that Westminster will happily ride roughshod over the wishes of the members of the "Union" and use it as an excuse to power grab from devolved governments. The EU wouldn't

DorisDaysDadDogsDead......So your another one with a crystal ball. How the fuck do you know this ?? I would have loved for us to remain, but the 'one and only vote' was out. For Gods sake get over it and move on. We are all Europeans who should be working together to sort this shit out for all our sakes. I'm sick to death of all the arguments for and against. It achieves nothing. And yes my first language is English you sarcastic insulter. Sorry I don't live up to your exacting standards, but I'm happy in my balanced world unlike yours. Thanks and goodnight. I'm off to have a glass of vino. If you want to insult me again, wait until I'm back tommorow and I'll be happy to spar with you again.

Cinnamoncake some of our fiscal policy is governed by the EU though; we cannot make our VAT any lower than the EU threshold I believe. And, for those who would like to see VAT levied on school fees - no can do while we are in the EU.
Moreover, if as a last resort a case is taken to the European Court of Human Rights, is that not in effect Brussels having the final word?

We, as in the UK as a whole, are not unlike a devolved NI or Scotland in some respects.

Oh yes human rights, lets get rid of those. And have the likes of JRM and Priti Patel in charge. Lovely.

I have a child dependent on medication that will almost certainly be limited in a no deal situation.
(I have been to see my MP, queried as much as I can but am even more worried after getting no reassurances)
I sincerely believe that people will die in a no deal scenario. It makes me incredibly sad and angry that people on here who are advocating no deal think that because they are not vulnerable it'll somehow be fine for everyone else. Some of us are very vulnerable. I think many people on this thread literally have no idea how precarious some people's lives are.

I agree mummeeee It's very scary about medications, cancer treatments and so on not getting through, and in the longer term, things like people not being able to take part in medical trials because we won't be part of programmes after Brexit.
How can people think this is a good idea. Like you say, they presumably think it won't affect them. Or they just don't care about the human cost?

Moreover, if as a last resort a case is taken to the European Court of Human Rights, is that not in effect Brussels having the final word?

Jesus Christ the ignorance

Mummeeee - the health of
Your child or any other child is not important.

As long as we get this NO Deal utopia.

I am sorry that I am sounding harsh but it’s clear from this thread that we have to except this and it’s what people voted for.

Leavers, or supposed Remainers now Leavers, - if hypothetically some of the ‘experts’ are right and lives are lost due to No Deal Brexit - how will you feel?

Is it a price worth paying?

Accept not except

I'd still vote leave, I didn't vote leave for a deal, I voted leave because I didn't agree with the Treaty of Lisbon, and don't agree with the EU's fiscal policy.

@Biker what did’t you agree with in the Treaty of Lisbon?

I am interested to know as I don’t profess to know much about it.

Is there a sort of brexiters script being shared of late? Say things that sound convincing BUT provide no detail at all.

I asked that question on another thread and the answer was Leavers don't want deaths but if they occur it's definitely not their fault.

Sorry - that was a reply to Justaboutdone

Someone said before you can have another referendum as the last one was based on misinformation.
If you hadn't realised all elections are based on a load of bs.
Does that mean I can go around and just because the elections didn't go my way I can then demand another election... and before someone says "yeah you get one in another 4 years, "- yeah but that's not really the point.
People are allowed to vote how they voted you know. You can't just shout people down and stamp your feet. WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY you know.
BTW I voted leave and would again

Any of the recent Leave posters say how they’d deal with the problem of the border in Northern Ireland?

Someone said before you can have another referendum as the last one was based on misinformation.
If you hadn't realised all elections are based on a load of bs.

Perhaps you don’t realise, but had the criminal activity that occurred during the referendum taken place during an election, the election would have to be re-run.

(From Page 1) a bloated monolithic union who has been sucking the life out of Europe

From my point of view you are describing Britain.

No, the last referendum was based on lies, not "misinformation"