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DH being "pushed" out of yet another job

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needahusbandtransplant · 30/07/2019 20:26

Hi folks. Sorry, this is going to be long but I'm trying to give a full enough backstory so as not to drip feed. But I need to know if I'm being a heartless bitch, or perfectly reasonable.

So DH and I have been together for 16 years and have 4 kids.

His last 2 jobs have been fraught with stress, anxiety and performance improvement issues, with the last one culminating in a payoff to disappear quietly with the promise of a decent reference. This was after several months of him being off sick with stress.

We had anticipated this ending and about a year before, had downsized our property. I wasn't happy about this but I stood by him and, having only 2 kids at that time, this was reasonably easy to do (the downsizing that is). The new house was a bit of a shithole tbh (although in a good area) but after a few months of unemployment he managed to get a new job. Things were looking up, his new colleagues seemed nice and normal and we were able to do up and extend our home and had 2 more kids.

Fast forward 4 years, things have gone tits up at his current job. He's had a couple of run ins with colleagues and people in other depts. they've now decided he's a problem and are now finding "issues" with his work (which has never been an issue till now). So now he's off on the sick again, driving me absolutely bonkers because he's a lazy sod and doesn't actually want to spend his sick leave minding the kids, but is having to, because I refuse to send them to their grans unless their is an actual reason/need to do so.

He had a meeting today with his line manager, and the possibility of a "settlement with a decent reference" was discussed. Dh thinks if he returns to work from sick leave he may be looking at a possible disciplinary and a performance improvement setup.

He has some job apps in the pipeline, but nothing guaranteed.

I'm seriously pissed off! I just feel so fucking hacked off that were even in this situation yet again. Dh thinks I'm being unsympathetic and he should take the settlement. Apparently I'm being unreasonable because I don't seem to care about his mental health! The thing is, logically, I can see the argument for accepting the settlement offer, but it seems I'm married to a man who is so incapable of getting along with work colleagues that eventually he has to be hounded out of every place of work! He doesn't seem to see that he appears to be the problem! I bought all the "I'm being picked on" at the last 2 jobs, but seriously, 3 times?! I work in the same type of organisation, and in my experience, it's very unusual for people in our type of workplace to be "managed out the door", and yet he's managed it 3 times now!

OP posts:
Babyroobs · 30/07/2019 20:52

I think maybe when you do have stress and anxiety like this , things can be exaggerated and because of the way you feel you can feel picked on so he may actually be feeling that even though it's not the case in reality ( or not intended) . I am currently feeling the same in my work. I feel very sensitive because I'm depressed and every criticism seems huge.

AutumnCrow · 30/07/2019 20:53

Were these jobs in local authorities or similar? Team work really matters.

Anyway I'd rescue yourself tbh. You need to sort your life and the DC's lives out.

AnyFucker · 30/07/2019 20:54

Roobs, are you rude, arrogant and patronising though ?

Booboooo · 30/07/2019 20:54

Is he argumentative? Bossy? Lazy? Hes extremely lucky hes had all those settlements and not sacked! Sounds like he is most defiantly the problem. YANBU one bit!!!

Gizmo79 · 30/07/2019 20:54

I am having to manage several people like this. It sucks. Getting rid of them is the only option to making a workplace bearable.
To live with that.... no way. Get rid.

TSSDNCOP · 30/07/2019 20:55

What date did he start his current job?

If it’s anywhere less than 2 years there won’t be a settlement, just a concrete parachute.

Cosentyx · 30/07/2019 20:55

He's lazy, rude, obnoxious and patronising. Honestly, get shut of him. You're onto a hiding to nothing here and subjecting your poor kids to it.

IDespairOfTheHumanRace · 30/07/2019 20:55

No advice OP, but your username is pure brilliance and says it all really

Gizmo79 · 30/07/2019 20:56

roobs do you go claiming bullying as well? Just asking, because it seems that is a common theme in my work place.

purplelila2 · 30/07/2019 20:56

But what on earth is he doing to be put in this position? Must be pretty bad....

needahusbandtransplant · 30/07/2019 20:56

He seems to have gotten lazier and lazier as the years have progressed tbh and only really became apparent when we had 2 more children.

You're all right btw, i am totally thinking I should ltb, and looking back, it's all very well saying "why did you have more kids" but it genuinely didn't seem such a bad idea at the time.

Hindsight's a bitch as they say. I'm just so fed up. Being married to him is soooo stressful.

Looking back I now wonder if he suggested more children as a way to "trap" me into staying married to him for longer. He may have sensed that I seriously considered leaving him the last time around and thought that hving mor kids would keep me here. But I really believed him when he said everything would be fine, mor fool me 🙄😞

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Cosentyx · 30/07/2019 20:57

I dated a guy like this, too. He is self-employed. Still an utter cunt, too.

Sorryisntgoodenough · 30/07/2019 20:57

I know someone like your DH, for the 4th time, I’ve recently seen him ranting on FB about shitty colleagues who don’t listen to his management suggestions but then wonder why there are problems & a high turnover of staff..... aye Bob, it’s all them.....4 jobs in 7 years Hmm

I genuinely feel that he's not necessarily bad at his job, but his attitude stinks, and that makes people not want to work with him after a period of time.

Maybe you need to be the one to sit down and tell him straight op.

cuppycakey · 30/07/2019 20:58

He is rude, obnoxious and patronising to the people in his private life, so I can well imagine him being so in his work one too.

So why did you marry him and have four children with him?

cuppycakey · 30/07/2019 20:59

Sorry - x post with you OP.

So what is your plan now? It seems unlikely he will change.

Passthecherrycoke · 30/07/2019 20:59

Ime settlements are quite common in these scenarios because it ends the possibility of legal action which people like the OPs are very quick to take. They don’t really need to have a case, the company still have the expense and admin of responding to court action. Easier to bung him a few grand and get him to sign a settlement. Gets rid of him quickly too

Booboooo · 30/07/2019 20:59

What does he bring to your life OP?

AnyFucker · 30/07/2019 21:00

So why did you marry him and have four children with him?

When people say stuff like this are you really saying "you made your bed, so lie in it". Or do you think it is helpful in any way ?

thetimekeeper · 30/07/2019 21:01

they've now decided he's a problem

To be fair, it sounds like he is! Rude, obnoxious, patronising, and lazy are all your words for him.

You only have his word for it that they're creating issues with his work and being picky on that basis. You don't actually know they're not rightly calling him up on his attitude and behaviour - a pattern of the kind of behaviour you're describing could easily constitute misconduct.

You don't even know that he hasn't been being lazy and underperforming with his work.

What are you hoping for from us here?

I, for one, absolutely agree that he very much seems to be the one at fault and clearly has no intention of addressing that. Are you happy living this way?

IWentAwayIStayedAway · 30/07/2019 21:02

Hey! I'm self employed and I am pure joy!! I have to be lol. Repeat business and all that

soupmaker · 30/07/2019 21:02

Looks like he's the common denominator. I'm amazed he's managed to get payoffs, I'm in the public sector where you're more likely performance managed or disciplined.

Has he got an undiagnosed ASD which is contributing to his behaviour given it's not just at work he's got issues?

Passthecherrycoke · 30/07/2019 21:03

OP doesn’t actually have to make a life long decision to end a marriage with the father of her 4 children after posting on MN for 45 mins @thetimekeeper. Maybe she just wants to talk.

Jupiter13 · 30/07/2019 21:04

I'm really sorry about the position you have been put in again...he would never survive at my place of work... everyone is friendly...have a laugh...it's more like a holiday camp... .we had someone like that there once..he was known as the poison midget..good luck...he eventually left.

Moondust001 · 30/07/2019 21:05

I know someone like your DH, for the 4th time, I’ve recently seen him ranting on FB about shitty colleagues who don’t listen to his management suggestions but then wonder why there are problems & a high turnover of staff..... aye Bob, it’s all them.....4 jobs in 7 years

Gosh, you have met my BIL then?

Bluntness100 · 30/07/2019 21:06

Well clearly it's him. I am also struggling to understand why you had four kids with someone you know to be rude, obnoxious and patronising, how it ever seemed a good idea.

Bottom line is, you have four kids with this arsehole. He is who he is. You either get out or you stick with it. But it's not going to change.

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