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The absolute state of the Daily Mail (re Meghan Markle)

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Hithere12 · 30/07/2019 12:18

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7298013/Meghan-Markles-organic-baby-shawl-used-swaddle-Archie-workers-earning-37-PENCE-hour.html

This is there top story. Meghan is using a cheap shawl & DM have found the factory it was made in.

She’s been criticised non stop for her spending, uses something cheap and the DM visit the sweatshop it was made in! I’m sorry but we are all guilty of this, very few people I’m sure track down where everything they buy is made and how much the staff are paid.

It’s just getting ridiculous how they’ll find literally anything to criticise.

If the DM want to expose sweat shops (something they care little about usually) they have the resources and man power to do so but they don’t give a shit they just want to go after Meghan.

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BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 15:13

“No one has stood up for her standing up Invictus participants with horrific injuries”
Well, I haven’t commented on this because I have no idea what the facts are. She could have been saying “Can’t be arsed” or she could have been throwing up- who knows?

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 15:14

The points I made that no one has commented on are facts

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 15:22

At the end of the day though they are in the public eye, and are also choosing to step into the limelight beyond the remit of their royal duties- I'm pretty sure they weren't ordered by Buckingham Palace to guest edit Vogue or get taken by private plane to the Google summit.

People who are in the public eye are going to be judged, sometimes unfairly and sometimes for good reason. Some people rub you up the wrong way. There are probably some celebs I hate who others love and vice versa. But the royals rely on the goodwill and support of the public and so if things keep going awry then they need to look again at how they are coming across. They are getting people's backs up, including people who were supportive and excited about their marriage.

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 15:31

Example- M visiting a charity as one of her royal duties, great. Shouldn't be criticised for that. M writing that cringefest in Vogue, open to ridicule IMO. No different to the round mocking Gwyneth Paltrow received for her wanky website.

H- attending an event as part of his duties and a representative of the monarch, fair play. Prancing around in his bare feet at some secretive smugfest summit and calling him a prat is fair enough.

That's my view anyway!

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 15:34

“M writing that cringefest in Vogue, open to ridicule IMO.”

Yep. But maybe not by people who haven’t actually read it or who dismiss all the women on the cover as “awful”.

TSSDNCOP · 03/08/2019 15:35

Is there actual proof that PH was actually at GC. Looks to me that despite all the headlines declaring his presence, the articles themselves get all prim and start using “reportedly” and “believed to have been”.

Re the wounded marines. Who knows what “tired” meant. Could have meant tired, could’ve meant gripping the toilet throwing up. The only certainty was a brief no-show and a polite excuse, then she was back on show.

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 15:37

But maybe not by people who haven’t actually read it or who dismiss all the women on the cover as “awful”.

I have read it, and only think 2 of the women are awful. Quite like most of the others!

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 15:39

And I have no desire to defend Prince H. Apart from to say that I agree with a lot of what he says about climate change/the environment/mental health and I don’t actually think that you have to be completely perfect on an issue before you can have opinions on it. However, a private jet is stretching it a bit, I agree!

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 15:40

Well every major news outlet is reporting his attendance including his travel arrangements. I believe the palace refused to comment on his travel arrangements but didn't deny his attendance so I'd say he was there.

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 15:41

“I have read it, and only think 2 of the women are awful. Quite like most of the others!” they have all been dismissed by some posters! I think one is awful, and I am very conflicted about one of the others- I heard stuff about her on this thread that I didn’t know and it’s causing me serious problems!

justasking111 · 03/08/2019 15:43

George Hamilton of the perma tan summed up celebrities beautifully imo.

"For anyone seeking more than skin-deep analysis of the president, Hamilton is not your man. He says he hasn't voted in his life and believes it's irresponsible for actors, who "have no qualifications," to express opinions on such matters. "They're given an unusual amount of credibility," he says. "A lot of young actors do it and they shouldn't. The political [people] are happy to use your persona. I think it's unfair to the voter."

www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/george-hamilton-looks-back-at-his-controversies-caricature-1227897

TSSDNCOP · 03/08/2019 15:44

Would you? Look at the definite headlines and then look at the articles.

One paper had a photo of him walking barefoot in a beach and then in small text that it was taken several years previously.

If he flew on a private jet to GC that’s a definite reason for criticism.

But the way the papers are reporting it, I wouldn’t take it as absolute fact.

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 15:47

I heard stuff about her on this thread that I didn’t know and it’s causing me serious problems!

LC or JJ? Or maybe I'm way off base and Jane Fonda has pissed you off!

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 15:49

JJ.

I live in a James Blake worshipping household, and I was only aware of her as his girlfriend and the writer of tweets I agree with about women and body image and the fashion industry.

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 15:58

I see. She wasn't really on my radar until she waded into the NSPCC/ Bergdorf debacle and whilst clearly ignorant of the issues decided trans=victim and instigated a pile on to Janice Turner anyway.

LaurieMarlow · 03/08/2019 16:07

No one has stood up for her standing up Invictus participants with horrific injuries.

She was pregnant (first trimester) and in the middle of a fairly gruelling tour.

Because they’re amputees does that mean no one is ever allowed to be sick/incapacitated in relation to them?

What if Kate had had to stand them up when she had HG? Of course that would have been fine.

Is Meghan not allowed to feel terrible one day of her pregnancy? And perhaps there was more to it than that and she’d had a scare or something?

GlitchStitch · 03/08/2019 16:09

JJ also made a video just this week endorsing Mermaids btw.

Criticising M for pulling out of something in pregnancy is unfair I agree. Nobody knows what was wrong or how she was feeling.

joyfullittlehippo · 03/08/2019 16:11

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BlamesFartsOnTheNeighbour · 03/08/2019 16:34

Charitable foundations can be well dodgy. There's a story in the last Private Eye about some betting shop chain owner whose private foundation paid for a loch clean up or something at vast expense. Turned out his house overlooked the loch and he was the main beneficiary and the trustees were all members of his family so there was a huge conflict of interest. I imagine that H and M's is subject to more thorough scrutiny though, or at least I would hope so.

separatelives · 03/08/2019 16:36

Well I hope you aren't accusing me of reporting you. I've never reported anyone for anything, not that petty you see. Btw I didn't make an actual accusation, my wording wasn't that explicit. So who could the "someone" be I wonder. You should lighten up a bit and stop worrying about what's said about the elite.

separatelives · 03/08/2019 16:38

How could I have known it was YOU anyway? Confused

BertrandRussell · 03/08/2019 16:45

“Btw I didn't make an actual accusation, my wording wasn't that explicit”

You did, you know!

SamanthaBrique · 03/08/2019 16:45

I remember when Meghan pulled out of that Invictus breakfast event. She was about a week into their Oz trip and had attended everything up until then. The opening ceremony the previous night had overrun and not finished til the early hours of the morning. She was in her first trimester. Is it any surprise that she might've been too tired to attend the breakfast but was able to attend the lunch after spending the morning resting? Honestly, do some posters not realise what the first few months of pregnancy can be like?

separatelives · 03/08/2019 16:50

No I didn't Bertrand Russell, I used the words "how do we know", meaning we don't know.....because I don't trust them .THAT isn't an accusation.

LaMarschallin · 03/08/2019 17:10

because I don't trust them

See, I do trust them to make sure any money raised goes where it should, if only for the base reason that they've got plenty and don't need to skim off the odd million.

I might trust their motives less and feel they choose their charities with an eye more to public image than any deeply held beliefs, but ultimately charities benefit and it's hard to argue against that.
But they do seem a bit style over substance to me. William and Kate seem to me to have been a bit more tactful/cunning (depending on viewpoint) about their public persona.
And it's just that - a feeling. I don't know anymore than anyone else who reads the press so don't shine lights in my eyes and ask for hard and fast evidence.
I'm as sure as I can be that it's not based on racism though.

(I also resent not being told who Archie's godparents were as I wanted to see Amal's the godmamas' dresses.

I probably don't need to point it out but the crossed-out-Amal bit was a joke.)