The absolute state of the Daily Mail (re Meghan Markle)

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7298013/Meghan-Markles-organic-baby-shawl-used-swaddle-Archie-workers-earning-37-PENCE-hour.html

This is there top story. Meghan is using a cheap shawl & DM have found the factory it was made in.

She’s been criticised non stop for her spending, uses something cheap and the DM visit the sweatshop it was made in! I’m sorry but we are all guilty of this, very few people I’m sure track down where everything they buy is made and how much the staff are paid.

It’s just getting ridiculous how they’ll find literally anything to criticise.

If the DM want to expose sweat shops (something they care little about usually) they have the resources and man power to do so but they don’t give a shit they just want to go after Meghan.

There was much discussion about it during Obama’s presidency. And the fact that the word was so widely accepted as having racist connotations that the sort of people who used it in that way were replacing it with “arrogant”.

The point isn't really whether a poster on MN knew the word had racist connotations, it's that EH almost certainly did.

@Janista - 3.42

Excellent post. I completely agree.

Exactly @GlitchStitch.

Try googling “Is uppity a racist term?” and see what you get.
And there is absolutely no possible way Holmes didn’t know what he was saying.

Where has this discussion taken place? Don’t say Twitter, that doesn’t count.

No, I'm not on Twitter.
I knew this would happen and have failed entirely to muster articles on Google to support my point.
The newspapers I take regularly are the Guardian and the Times (an odd mix but OH and I are cryptic crossword fans and those are our favourites).
Honestly, I can't tell you exactly where and can't be bothered to search. I'm not lying though - I have read several articles about this.*
For MM fans though, there was a very funny piece by Deborah Ross in the Times (Thursday?) about the criticism of MM's Vogue editing. I'm not a MM fan myself but it still made me smile. No choking though.

*I'm probably brainwashed by the press into not thinking much of MM (or any of the RF, especially the younger ones) and into thinking some criticism of MM is based on racism.
With my tiny brain they wouldn't need much detergent...

escapade1234

What are the connotations of “uppity”?

We are Mr Men fans here, read Mr Uppity lots of times. Who’d have thought Roger Hargreaves was dog whistling?

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Try Bertrand's suggestion @NoTheresa

I read a great deal (including the very liberal New Yorker) and I had never seen mention of the word "uppity" and its racist connotations. I know words change meaning over time, but it does take a while to filter through to the general public. And, as someone else pointed out, word usage in the US is somewhat different to that in the UK.

I do find the blind M love from some people here rather odd. She's not a flippin' saint!

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/from-louis-armstrong-to-the-nfl-ungrateful-as-the-new-uppity

“I do find the blind M love from some people here rather odd. She's not a flippin' saint!”

I have no idea what she is like as a person. She might well be “awful” like, apparently, the women on her Vogue cover. She has just never done anything to warrant the condemnation she gets in the press and on here.

Try googling “Is uppity a racist term?” and see what you get.

How daft can you get? Has everyone got to google every word they use in case it's racist? Unless it has gained a lot of traction as offensive, people just don't know .

Busted, SamanthaBrique. And I even have that issue! I guess I zoned out at the mention of "NFL"...

I have, in common with some other sensible posters, certainly used “uppity” in the sense of getting above yourself.

But NEVER with any racist connotations. I do however see the MN circularity when it comes to topics like this.

FGS EH was a main news anchor on Sky for a decade, including during both Obama election campaigns and the entirety of his presidency. Let's not pretend he wasn't aware of the term being used in a racist way.

“How daft can you get? Has everyone got to google every word they use in case it's racist? Unless it has gained a lot of traction as offensive, people just don't know “

Of course. But once they've Googled, they do know. Which is great.

And Eamonn Holmes would most definitely have known. What with him having been a prominent media person for many, many years and gone on loads of training.

So in the absence of facts those calling for facts are accused of being ridiculous fangirls.

It’s a time honoured technique on here.

I’ve no idea what she’s like. But I can’t see that she’s done much wrong at all, so I’m going to chalkenge that.

How daft can you get? Has everyone got to google every word they use in case it's racist?

No of course not. But if someone points out that a word is racist then it's probably a good idea to have a google rather than to stick your fingers in your ears and continue to use it.

And there's no way EH didn't know.

Oh and stop sealioning

Now there's a new term for me.
Google is my friend (in this instance).
Took approximately 30 secs to look it up.
Would have been a lot longer to painstakingly type a post here (like this one) and ask.

Could anybody remind me if it's happened here? It would be appreciated.

(Is that the sort of thing, or have I got it wrong again? As per blooming usual )

chalkenge

For a split second I thought that was another word I might be instructed to google.

So did I @LaMarschallin and then I remembered this cartoon!

The latest on Meghan, if the Sun is to be believed, is that she's writing a children's book about rescue dogs. Presumably to benefit the Mayhew Centre, the animal charity that's one of her patronages.

It seems a fairly innocuous venture but I wonder what negative spin will be put on that? Will people be shouting "WHAT ABOUT THE CATZ?"