The absolute state of the Daily Mail (re Meghan Markle)

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7298013/Meghan-Markles-organic-baby-shawl-used-swaddle-Archie-workers-earning-37-PENCE-hour.html

This is there top story. Meghan is using a cheap shawl & DM have found the factory it was made in.

She’s been criticised non stop for her spending, uses something cheap and the DM visit the sweatshop it was made in! I’m sorry but we are all guilty of this, very few people I’m sure track down where everything they buy is made and how much the staff are paid.

It’s just getting ridiculous how they’ll find literally anything to criticise.

If the DM want to expose sweat shops (something they care little about usually) they have the resources and man power to do so but they don’t give a shit they just want to go after Meghan.

“Bertrand Russell Apart from those things you listed about unfairness etc....it's not as if MM is badly done to. She's married into the royal family and as such enjoys all the riches and privilege that goes with it.“

Yes, of course she does. And as I said, like all members of the royal family she spends a fuckton of money. I just don’t think she should be criticised for insane and unfair reasons. Which she is being. Repeatedly.

Interesting that nobody has named anyone they think is qualified to talk on environmental issues.

I was talking about Meghan, not Harry. I agreed a while ago that his use of private jets is hypocritical.

Interesting piece on the Guardian today about him and private jets. The author chides him for this but also points to research showing that having less children reduces your carbon footprint more than anything else.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/31/prince-harry-talking-population-royal-family-two-children

“Well yes increasing M&S shares is very worthwhile”

I thought you wanted Meghan endorsing British business...

I'm sure many people are qualified to talk on environmental issues. Is it necessary to provide a list before commenting on the hypocrisy of a prolific user of private jets lecturing others?

The collaboration with M&S means they will match every piece of clothing bought to send to the charity. I think it's smart works. I think she has chosen good charities that support women. The Grenfell book, the sex workers charity and this, off the top of my head. The DM froth at the mouth with their racist, mysoginistic claptrap as per usual, but those charities support poor women, many from ethnic minority backgrounds and have gained hugely. Looks like a decent years' work to me for a woman who's been pregnant for most of it.

When a royal " supports" a charity it doesn't require anything arduous on their part. Hardly deserving of any applause. They have to do something to fill their days, and of course justify the huge privilege they enjoy. It's all PR anyway. Anything to make them relevant. They should try spending less.

Apart from anything, NONE of the royals support poor women. They couldn't care less.

Perhaps BertrandRussell - whose defence of MM is unstinting - is perhaps Serena Williams or Amal Clooney? You never know!

The entire royal family is very privileged and major or minor, they live gilded lives, with (for some) a bit of boring old meeting the public and opening community centres thrown in. They mostly keep their heads down; we no longer automatically doff our caps to our "betters".

I think M and H have been ill advised - or perhaps too headstrong and taking no advice - launching into activism which is coming across as very preachy and hypocritical.

It's a shame that so much goodwill that was present before and around wedding has been frittered away. Perhaps they are both lovely people - or indeed perhaps not - does it matter? - but their public persona needs some urgent attention.

@separatelives I don't recall any previous royal paying a visit to a charity that supported sex workers. And I suppose Diana was only pretending to care about HIV and land mines?

And yes, banana signing etc etc but if it resulted in more donations that ever before then what's the problem?

For all the comments about how everything related to Meghan is criticised, I also think the opposite is true. Some are defending stuff they wouldn't normally, just because of a tenuous link to her. So the Clooneys embarrassing hypocrisy and Jamil's grim misogyny are suddenly no big deal.

No of course they don't do anything arduous. They are doing what they do because basically their existence is unjustifiable and they want to hang on to their position for them and their children for a long as they possibly can. However, as they are doing that, I'd rather they were raising awareness for small charities that support women than the Lawn Tennis Association, or the FA or the Chelsea Flower show.

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Plenty of poor women helped by those charities. And yes of course they don’t spend days at the coal face. But I would rather the donation and profile boost of royal patronage went to those charities than some others.

“I'd love a heckler to have got into 'Camp Google' and asked how many private jets had landed with celebs to attend the venue?”

Yes- so would I.

Would far rather spend the money on the charities directly than fund their luxury lifestyle.

“All the examples here, from the awful people chosen for the Vogue cover”

Some I wouldn’t have chosen- but many I would. Only a couple I would call awful. And I know that’s because of particular views I hold which are not universal.

the awful people chosen for the Vogue cover

What, Greta Thunberg, Jacinda Ardern, Adwoa Aboah and Christy Turlington are all awful people now?

“Would far rather spend the money on the charities directly than fund their luxury lifestyle.”

Well, obviously anyone in their right mind would abolish the whole shooting match. But until that happens.

Thanks for the polo links. Can you point to the part that says Harry took his horse to Italy. I just see that he played polo. Also that he was cleared of spurring the pony.

I’m really happy to give him a shoeing but, aside from having the very bad luck to be on a pony he and William shared at he time of the poor animals death I can’t see what you’re seeing.

I’ve made no secret in this thread that I am a RF supporter. I have no issue with fair criticism-William hunting in Spain being a case in point.

The thing I have issue with, particularly the DM is sloppy bandwagon reporting. Most of its own stories are self-retracted (see warring Duchess volte-face post Wimbledon, but by then the shit-storm has been well and truly whipped.

Who else is awful? I know Laverne Cox and Jameela Jamil are controversial figures- but I can’t see anything awful about the other 13. What am I missing?

When MM came on the scene, I was excited. I thought she’s be the proverbial breath of fresh air.
I have always had a lot of time for Harry.
However each week that goes by I feel more disappointed. I really cannot bear Meghan now and sadly Harry seems to have changed. He seems to have lost his air of being fairly normal and become a mouthpiece for Meghan, not in a good way.
I suspect they are getting good advice but aren’t listening. They’re not doing themselves any favours.