@helenadove
"Though i had to fucking laugh when she suggested that i dont give a fuck about social housing tenants" oh ffs!!
"Ah yes, and things like the three day week under that 'socialist' Ted Heath.
I love the way the extreme right wingers like to rewrite history." True. I missed a trick there!
"Life can change in the blink of an eye." Exactly!
"Thd idea of deserving vs undeserving poor that the tories have pushed since 2010 has really taken root." It goes back WAY further than that - which makes it even more astonishing why as I said anyone who isn't already pretty well off would vote for them!
When there were voters on question time and various news reports and online forum shocked and bemoaning the cuts to tax credits that they THOUGHT the tories didn't class as a welfare benefit and that Cameron had "promised" wouldn't be happening (he did no such thing, he fudged every time the subject was raised!) it was a real facepalm moment for me and many others. And clearly a rude awakening for those voters to realise that as far as the Tory party was concerned they too were "benefits scroungers" and therefore UNdeserving poor, and yet there are still people like this voting Tory - why?! It's completely shooting yourself in the foot, turkeys voting for Christmas etc utterly nonsensical!
"But if you can comfortably afford 5 kids it’s a bit of a stretch that the break up of the relationship would suddenly leave one partner penniless" how?! The scenario posited is ENTIRELY possible if the couple are unmarried or secretes the majority of assets into OW name prior to divorce, one parent is a sahp and the earning parent is self employed and exploits every loophole to avoid paying even minimal cm! Something which happens very often - just go look at the current mn sponsored thread asking on behalf of an MP what issues there are with cms!
And nobody has "misrepresented" johnsons disgusting and REPEATED racist and xenophobic comments!
"He will soon sort this shit storm out" you're deluded if you don't realise he will escalate the divisiveness caused by the whole brexit debacle and that is the mainstay of Tory actions anyway!
"Could be worse if there's a General Election and Labour win, we'd have Corbyn as PM. Now that's a horrendous thought" genuine question - why on EARTH do you think corbyn is WORSE than Johnson? Have you even looked at the labour manifesto? I've read many many posts on here slating Corbyn/Labour Party...I've yet to read one that gives a genuine factual reason why they would be worse!
@serenoa we can but dream...though I don't see it happening. Indeed I've just jumped on Facebook and seen that's all done n dusted!
As I said in my first post I think, people have this very odd, seriously unrealistic notion of the queen/royal family being REMOTELY caring or socialist on ANYTHING. I don't know why because it's of course not, never has been nor ever will be the case.
They simply want the royal family to keep their status and wealth and for there to be no risk of civil unrest as that would put them at risk also. The queen CHOSE to marry and loves a man as despicable, spoilt and racist as Johnson - what makes people think she doesn't think the same?! She's very careful what she says but that's purely from training and self interest. The Royal family are in the highest ivory tower going, they have nothing but a very distant, academic knowledge of poverty or hardship of any kind!
"Nothing much affects the royals, they are rich enough to not have to worry about things like Brexit." Yes definitely! Their only concern in regard to this will be the potential for it to reignite the troubles which would make them targets for a certain type Irish republican again.
"This isn't about being Churchill fighting on the beaches, it's about all the boring day to day negotiations that enable the way of life that we take for granted." Definitely