Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

AIBU to be uncomfortable re pics of Liz Hurley's son?

350 replies

longwayoff · 18/07/2019 07:42

They really are astonishing pictures, part of an ad campaign. He looks just like mum. I'm not keen. Please Google for ref, can't do link.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
16
Fraggling · 18/07/2019 12:27

No one would say anything about a17yo girl in photos with big hair and makeup.

Are there some where he's got hardly and clothes on or something I've only seen what's on the thread.

TheCakeCrusader · 18/07/2019 12:28

I didn’t think the styling was great and slightly ‘old fashioned’ with the huge 80’s styled blowed out hair.

Damian does have a striking face but these campaign shots weren’t particularly flattering and a bit too photoshopped.

TruthOnTrial · 18/07/2019 12:28

Its a bit hard to swallow [no pun intended] that pp arent concerned for his welfare, when thats exactly what you've been told.

oh thats right black is white

SirVixofVixHall · 18/07/2019 12:28

I agree that the creepy, hyper-sexualised tongue-behind-teeth-mouth-open poses that are standard for very young women, are highlighted here in a young man. That is what makes me uncomfortable, rather than a pretty bloke in makeup, which was every boy I knew as an 80s teenager. He looks like both his parents, I never understood how his father could have denied paternity, one look at him was enough. ( ditto Boris Becker).

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 18/07/2019 12:30

Pat Mcgrath - ''It's so important to know that you're not left out.'' So the latest campaign is on-brand (diversity/inclusivity).

TruthOnTrial · 18/07/2019 12:30

Fraggling

No one would say anything about a17yo girl in photos with big hair and makeup

Just goes to show doesn't it. Its a pretty poor reflection, but seeing a male do it really does pull you up short to realise how awful it is.

GrabbyGertie · 18/07/2019 12:30

It’s a photo shoot so silly makeup and pouts are to be expected. The gaping fish mouth look is ugly and stupid looking though. He looks very effeminate. I don’t know how much is him or how much is the photo shoot. I’m sure he knows the value of a faux controversial shoot though. Look at us all here giving him the attention he is after 😂
It’s not surprising he is good looking. I’m not a fan of his mother but she is classically beautiful. She has aged really well too and doesn’t look a victim of plastic surgery like so many of her contemporaries.

I find it annoying that celeb kids get so many breaks especially when some seem devoid of any talents and aren’t hard working. Brooklyn Beckham springs to mind.

TruthOnTrial · 18/07/2019 12:33

It's so important to know that you're not left out
in the exploitation stakes, and overtly doable, even if you are underage

MarshaBradyo · 18/07/2019 12:33

It’s not the big hair and makeup that’s the issue it’s the pose

UniversalAunt · 18/07/2019 12:34

The still poses are neutral & as such consistent with the overall campaign.

It is the .gif images that I find somewhat ‘meat-rack’, & I apply that term equally to male & female. Possibly heavily ironic...

Both Bowie & Bowie were adult men, nay blokes even, who played upon & performed with camp androgyny, all very rock ‘n’ roll. They owned their schtick & deployed it to sell their message & music.

Hurley Inc has created a PR narrative about Liz’s perfect life, super bod, barely-there merchandise & her teen son who takes everyday pics of mum posing in not much. This is just more of the same.

Auntie is old enough to remember when Liz had beetle brows & sufficient thespian ability to carry the lead role in BBC drama Christabel - not a safety pin in sight.

BertrandRussell · 18/07/2019 12:34

I’m not particularly concerned for his welfare- well, no more that I M concerned for the welfare of any celebrity’s kid. I do think him taking sexy pictures of his mum is worrying though.

My concern is for the retrograde steps we seem to be taking in sexual politics. The pouting, “come hither” look is one that we should be doing our best to get rid of in advertising- it’s a sexual stereotype that surely should have had its day. But instead of moving on from it, we seem to be widening it to include boys.

TruthOnTrial · 18/07/2019 12:35

Didn't I read that they are soul-mates and friends over and above parent/child. Good boundaries hes learnt then, not. Angry

No surprise then where he ends up really.

Sagradafamiliar · 18/07/2019 12:37

I take pride in my feminism so I'm trying to feel the discomfort but I don't feel it, I'm trying to see what others do but I don't see anything problematic. I can't agree with the 'mouth open= female stereotype' as an open mouth could indicate sexuality in either sex. But if I did accept it was a female stereotype, then what's the alternative? A male stereotype? Would that be a set jaw and furrowed brow? How is one stereotype more of an issue than the other?
I don't see anything deeper than a Pat McGrath campaign.

ClaphamOmniwuss · 18/07/2019 12:38

It makes me feel uncomfortable because he’s only 17 and it feels exploitative.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 18/07/2019 12:40

I don’t he looks androgynous, it’s exaggeratedly female sexualised posing.

It’s uncomfortable watching.

RageAgainstTheVendingMachine · 18/07/2019 12:42

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_McGrath_(make-up_artist)

I'd never heard of her but I don't do fashion - she is a black female model who, with the make up range, wanted all kinds of skin tones - hence in my last post detailing the campaign you have black/white/biracial and asian models. It is interesting that the two black women are ones who are not being presented as either sexual or performing femininity. I knew nothing of the brand creator's background but thought that the two black models were the most natural in the film showing off the make up without heavy posing.

Sagradafamiliar · 18/07/2019 12:42

It's not an indecent pose though is it. It's just a photo of his face.

Sagradafamiliar · 18/07/2019 12:45

Pat is the legendary artist who inspired the likes of Jeffree Star who is now famous for his makeup tutorials on YouTube, and his own makeup brand. Jeffree himself has inspired other male make up artists like James Charles, Manny Mua, ect

paddlingwhenIshouldbeworking · 18/07/2019 12:45

My only wish is that these children of celebrities had to actually DO something rather than just exist to be feted (or lampooned or whatever)

Its impossible to know if they are vacuous or self absorbed as they haven't yet done anything with their lives other than pop themselves out there on to the internet.

NottonightJosepheen · 18/07/2019 12:45

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

JaneJeffer · 18/07/2019 12:46

Doesn't bother me. Remember this beaut "back in the day"?

AIBU to be uncomfortable re pics of Liz Hurley's son?
Sagradafamiliar · 18/07/2019 12:46

(Please don't google any of their videos if this one photo of Damian has provoked discomfort).

RB68 · 18/07/2019 12:47

I think they are deliberately done in this way to challenge where we are sitting comfortably. I think he is still only quiet young so some more obvious male features chin, broadening of face and physique haven''t fully happened yet making them more androgynous than they might be in the future. They are just challenging a norm to be honest

Rufusthebewilderedreindeer · 18/07/2019 12:50

jane

Yes indeed i do Grin

And i dont think any posters have a problem with a beautiful man with beautiful hair (that should be on my head) and makeup on

It seems to be the pose that its causing any concern

Ivegotthree · 18/07/2019 12:53

He's trying to look sexual and he's a child.

Awful.