To think you get less respect if you are fat

[Jojobears]

I’m currently fat (16/18), but have been slim previously.

I don’t know if it’s just my self esteem levels, but I really feel that I have less respect from people when I’m fat. Although I could be imagining it.

So, can I ask, do you treat people with less respect if they are fat.

Ps I’m not a daily fail journo. Heaven forbid they employ anyone with a house worth less than 500k

Yes unfortunately I think some people equate obesity with a lack of control and therefore negatively.

Definitely don't agree with any criticism of the studies
What a relief.
My mouth fell open when I read the fat shaming post.

I've been a size 16 and a size 8/10.

I can say that men treat you way way better when you're slim. It's quite ridiculous actually.

Women treat you with respect : but also caution - quite simply they think you will fuck their husband and they see you as a threat. Even if I'm nowhere near your husband, women seem to hate thinner women. It's difficult to make friends with women as a thin woman. They don't want to know.

When you're fat people see you as lazy, uncouth and uneducated. Suddenly when I'm skinny everything I say is gospel? Give me a break, people are so shallow.

Yes, it matters if people think size 16/18 isn't (usually) fat.

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For sure that size is fat. Unless you're 6 foot tall. Which most women aren't.

I think people judge obesity as a drain on resources, an avoidable problem that causes disease, like smoker's.
They judge people as being lazy, As I mentioned I worked with a lovely woman she's 27 stone, I am guilty of thinking fecking hell when she takes out her medication at lunch time, she has told me her healthy issues in detail her sleep apnea, diabetes 2, blood pressure, heart medication, most issues are from her weight.
I don't think for a second shes a bad person, shes a great person but trapped at the moment.

What a depressing thread. To me fat is clearly and obviously obese. I think 16/18 can be a variety of things depending on body shape. I'm genuinely sorry if fluffy offended anyone but to me fluffy is chubby and not fat.

I'm an 8/10 but I don't like the cruelty on this thread.

I believe we are following American there'll be lots of people living my 600lb life, these are the people who need intervention, not a size 16, most people hover over a 16 but rarely hit the large numbers.

Yes absolutely, I’ve been both skinny and fat, ironically it seems the bigger you are the more invisible you are. I’ve especially found this with older male colleagues.

I don't think that I treat fat people with less respect, but then I'm sure no one thinks they're guilty of these sorts of things...

I've certainly witnessed fat women being treated in a way that has made me wonder if things would have gone differently if they were thinner. It's tricky because it's one of those things that's so hard to prove.

A size 16 - 18 is definitely fat. It would be hard to be that size and not fall into.the obese category unless you're exceptionally tall.

I'm 5'5" and have been a size 18 in the past. I was definitely obese. As pp have said, we're losing our perspective on what fat is.

However, recognising someone as overweight or obese isnt the same as treating them differently because of it. As a former fat person I would hope I dont do this. I agree that some people do though.

YANBU.

I'll admit it. I know I judge people a bit when they are very overweight/obese.

I don't know anyone who is so big but lives healthily (e.g. exercises, eats normally/healthily). So I struggle to believe that it's possible to become so large & not usually be personally responsible through lack of exercise or poor diet choices. I associate those things with a degree of laziness or lack of restraint/control, and find it personally difficult to respect people who exhibit those characteristics.

Nb. I know there may be a minority of people out there with medical conditions that affect their weight but am as guilty as anyone of assuming this is relatively rare.

Oh & obesity related conditions are placing a huge burden on the NHS and society and I resent this.

Have yo yo d a lot and notice who talks to me. Changes dramatically.

Attractive people tend to get more respect than less attractive people. That's unfair, but that's just human nature. And being overweight is something that lowers your attractiveness in most people's eyes.

It's such a complex issue isn't it? I was slim all my life, including after the birth of two babies, until I started taking a medication which has side effects of making you crave carbs like an addict and simultaneously slowing down your metabolism so you feel sleepy and sluggish all day. My weight climbed and then it became a vicious circle. The heavier you are, and the more carbs you have been consuming, the more you crave them and the harder it is to be active.

I know several women who have put on weight for the same reason. I can spot them. It's a puffy, waterlogged sort of weight. I know one woman who trained for and ran a marathon and still had that look due to her meds.

I know other people who are obese because they are emotional eaters. People who think this is just a lack of self control don't understand the gravity of the underlying issues that lead people to emotional eating. It's often neglect or abuse in childhood.

Someone I know is hugely respected and works in the fitness industry but most people would call her overweight ( as I am)

She isnt very tall and is an emotional eater : she's tried to overcome this but a lot is childhood related (she admits this. ) Things that have happened to her over the years has made it worse as well and she will turn to food for comfort even though she knows it's a slippery slope.

Wish I had her body confidence as she doesn't mind how she looks and just gets on
It's a complex issue and never black and white especially with eating disorders and weight and comfort eating too. Many people do this to compensate for the bad things in life others may turn to drugs or drink.

I think there's a difference between being fat (say size 16) and absolutely morbidly obese. I would say the latter would generate more "curiosity" (if that's the right word) and general lack of respect.

Unfortunately I am fat at 16/18. I can tell that when I look in the mirror and feel it when I exercise, and my BMI is classed as obese. However on a taller woman a 16/18 may not be fat.

The reason i am fat is that I work long hours so eat at my desk and don’t exercise enough: not that I’m a “unsorted” person. I’m good at my job; my weight doesn’t alter that

The reason i am fat is that I work long hours so eat at my desk and don’t exercise enough: not that I’m a “unsorted” person.

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OK.....

It really is all about calories in vs calories out.

Whether you are sorted or not is two different points.

Do you want to lose weight?

Again, I see eating at a desk as an excuse - but why does eating when working mean eating unhealthily?

If you want to lose weight, and it's purely a case of calories in/out + exercise, it is completely possible.

Not in my experience, no. I am a size 22-24 , I've never experienced anyone treating me with less respect than anyone else.
It doesn't impact my abilities in the workplace or anywhere else .

I can hardly bear seeing the trope of calories in, calories out being wheeled out. People who have a brain, consider this, why has obesity rocketed since the mid-seventies? Was it when the worlds population suddenly lost all self-control and turned into couch-potatoes? We now exercise more than we ever have in the past, we are permanently on a diet, but the obesity shows no signs of abating?

It is stupid and oversimplistic to just blame the individual and accuse them of not trying hard enough. We are trying harder than we have ever had, but the issue transcends personal domain. There is a lot more to being obese. And if calories in, calories out was such a great, solve-all cure, why are we as a worlds population still getting fatter?

@JaceLancs do you think her comment was vis a vis the fact you were eating a chicken rather than you were eating?

We now exercise more than we ever have in the past, we are permanently on a diet,

are WE?
WE ALL have a more active live than the human race ever had?
We eat the same diet than we ever had, haven't supersize portions, ready meals and junk food?

Are you really sure?

hy are we as a worlds population still getting fatter?
is it? Visited a few non-western countries recently?

Even getting out of the UK might give you a shock.

I think it's more to do with attractiveness and youth, tbh.