to not want to sign off my emails with preferred pronouns?

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We've had an email do the rounds today at work saying in the next few weeks all staff are expected to sign off with their preferred pronouns, to save any embarrassment for any staff.

I don't want to.

Can I fight this somehow?

Kind of think pomegranates are appropriate?

Over my dead body would I go along with this utter lunacy. It’s pathetic.

I have a sense of self as a woman, nothing to do with feelz, nothing to do whether I like blue or pink or tractors or Barbies or whatever.

This is a subjective personal feeling that you have and therefore isn't interesting or relevant to anyone else. As I don't have this subjective personal feeling and I have no idea what is going on in your head, the only thing you and I could have in comon which would make us both women would be our anatomy.

Goodie it's recipe time.
The only time I eat apples is in coleslaw.
I'm going to pick strawberries next week, now they're in season.

because someone disagrees with you? Oookay.
If we can't debate and just descend to this shit every time, fair enough.
I like apples too.Not just in coleslaw though, that's a bit of a cop out, yummy fruit by itself.
Just reminded me it's strawberry picking season, love strawberry picking and I think our local pick your own farm should be up and ruing strawberry picks any day now, will have to check

ruuning not ruing

running! FFS lol

See, as much as that poster was well out of order (horrible to threaten to dox people) how the heck are trans people eroding every single right that women have?

Activists like that person are insisting that a group of men should have women’s rights extended to them.

So every place where sex segregation exists will become mixed sex. Every shortlist for women will include men.

And the U.K. government, and other governments around the world are fully on board.

So if that isn’t eroding every right, I’m not sure what is.

Going back to the OP.

I am absolutely of the opinion that there are two sexes - male and female and that gender is basically a social construct. I feel the pain and agree with almost everything that is said on these feminist boards.

That said, this new rule is as tyrannical to anyone thinking of transitioning as it is of women and men. What if you are a woman who thinks you may want to present as a man. What if you are currently presenting as a man but aren't sure where this is going. You now have to put your pronouns - otherwise known as your gender identity - on every email. What if you change your mind? Does every single person in the company need to know where you are about gender? How is that fair? Should we be putting our sexual preferences in our tag lines next in case anyone gets it wrong.

So to go back to the OP this requirement is wrong on nearly every level - it is wrong for men and women and it is wrong for trans people who may be struggling with how they present to the world too.

Given the woke culture that seems to pervade corporate world today, I would be tempted to go back to HR and say "I find it really insensitive of you to demand that we declare our gender and our preferences to our workmates. What if we are undecided? What if we are changing daily? This is an added pressure to people to conform and I reject it"

The only reason to put pronouns are for those who use ones like zie or they, rather than s/he.
Because anyone with a female or male name is going to be assumed to be s/he already, and for those with a name that could be unisex, people will do what they already do and not assume.
It is only going to be in a few tiny industries that saying your pronoun is zie or they is not going to work against you.

I think a lot of people in these woke circles don't realise or forget that most of the country knows nothing about these things, and if they come across it eye roll behind the person's back.

Because anyone with a female or male name is going to be assumed to be s/he already
That's just it though,surely? People presume when they could be completely wrong.

If you want to be called she then use a female or at least neutral name. Why call yourself say Kevin if you want others to use female pronouns for you? It makes no sense at all.

I am absolutely of the opinion that there are two sexes - male and female

That's not an opinion, it's a fact!

I agree with the rest of your post.

Apart from anything else, as has already been said, it's a waste of fecking time. You don't generally use pronouns when you are answering an email to that person and if you are referring to them in an email to someone else, most of the time they wont know what you've used and most of the time you might not know what is on their footer anyway, or care enough to go and find out.

As a midwife, I know that all babies are born with breast tissue. babies with typically female anatomy usually have more and this may appear swollen at birth due to the hormonal surges in the perinatal period.

As a midwife, I would be sacked and struck off for posting any of the posts you all have about trans people.

As a midwife, protecting the chosen identity of the people I provide maternity care for is paramount to my role. That might mean addressing a cis woman by her name instead of "mum". It might mean correctly referring to a pregnant trans man as "he" and ensuring that everyone who he comes into contact with does too.

*As a midwife, I know that often the partner(s)(yes, not everyone is monogamous) who can breastfeed often induce lactation (and we provide what information sources we can for this) to ensure the baby gets breast milk. Same with adoptive parents. Being a midwife means informing a pregnant trans man who ahs had "top surgery" that his baby does not have to be exclusively formula fed and his baby only having breastmilk is achievable too.

I used that language because you have all reduced womanhood to having a vagina and breasts or not having a penis. For me, my anatomy is not what defines my womanhood. It may have shaped my experiences, but not in a way that can be generalised so specifically that it excludes people who do not have the same anatomy as me, regardless of their assigned sex at birth.*

In the name of absolute fuck.

This is clearly a wind-up...right?

Seriously most people already ignore footers anyway.

This is clearly a wind-up...right?

I think the joke is on all of us.

This is clearly a wind-up...right?
Not sure who or what post that's referring to?

Sorry, just seen which bit you were referring to!
Wasn't clear in your post.
Whilst I didn't agree with a lot of what that poster was saying (eg the doxxing threatening) they had a point where some people say the only thing about being a woman is the biology.
Maybe for some, but for others it's not.

Maybe for some, but for others it's not.

And those other people would be wrong because that literally is what being a woman is, the biological state of being an adult human female.

No, it's science. Women are people with xx chromosomes, men are people with xy chromosomes.

Brown paper sophistry tied up with strings
These are a few of my favourite things

That wasn't to you Wax, as I'm sure you realise!

Antecedent
I'll share every thread on it here in a group on FB who work to ID transphobes and out them to their employers. They are very successful at it too

It turns out that you were a cunt after all.

It doesn't matter what you wear, name yourself, hormones you take, operations you have, the fact remains that it is impossible to change sex. You might not like that fact, but fact it is.

I did indeed Eresh.

Erishgal still singing, it's actually funny lol coupled with recipes.
The threads have mentioned peak trans (the one running in feminism about this thread)
The singing and recipes when faced with different viewpoints does a banging job of turning some people the other way so to speak, not sure why that's hard to see