Riiight. Okay. Page 1 I thought this was just your average goady post. I see it still is goady, just that type of goady.
@VivienneHolt
I think they is the best I can do to be polite and respectful about a person who is aggressive, male by birth and trying to erode my rights.
the insistence that there is an irrefutable ‘biological reality’ that penis = male, despite the fact that there is pretty solid consensus in the scientific community that your genitals do not determine your gender, and the fact that there is food evidence that your gender is biologically determined even when it does not correspond with your sex
I'm a science geek - I would genuinely lobe to be linked to some papers on this as I have not come across them. Please can you do so?
the constant references to Karen White as though she’s remotely representative of trans people, and despite the fact that trans rights groups have unequivocally criticised the decision to place her in a women’s prison given her offending history etc.
And yet there are many TRAs on twitter shouting mysogynistic hate against women who are trying to have a calm debate.
the tedious repetition of the question ‘please explain how a person can change sex’ which is persistently whipped out as though it’s an ace card that was hidden up a sleeve, despite the fact that it is repeated ad nauseam that being transgender isn’t about changing sex, that sex and gender are not the same thing, that your sex does not determine your gender.
Actually I've seen very little acknowledgement that sex is not the same as gender from that side of the debate. It's good to know it's acknowledged at times.
the attempts to frame transphobia as concern for or a desire to protect lesbians, despite the fact that lesbians have been neglected, oppressed, abused and belittled for decades without anyone giving much of a shit about them. Those who only started caring about lesbians when they realised it was an opportunity to dress up their transphobia in an allegedly acceptable veneer are concern-trolls.
So lesbians rights and voices isn't a concern feminism board should discuss?
Mumsnet has adopted a very narrow definition of transphobia which essentially only challenges posts containing actual slurs. I appreciate that they’re trying to find a balance which still allows for free expression, and that isn’t an easy task. But it has had the unfortunate side effect of emboldening transphobes, because now people can say ‘mumsnet deletes transphobic posts!’ and perpetuate the fantasy that anything not deleted by mumsnet is totally legitimate and inoffensive. That position ignores the true atmosphere on this site, which is one of hostility, misinformation, pseudo-science, prejudice and fear.
There is currently outrage that mumsnet deleted a (opposite of transphobe - I don't know what to call that - pro-trans?) Post. By women who are "transphobes" by your definition.