AIBU to think that this child should be allowed to compete as a girl? Transgender topic.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/48800075/transgender-skater-fighting-to-compete?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR3SHOZZproHs8lkaYi9tz5VcKPnE9xQRt7AR8m8rRPu5lPTJkp1m1808Os

It's an 11 year old (born male) ice skater. There's a little video where to me she looks female.

I daren't put this on the feminism board, but AIBU to think that in 20 years time we will look back in shame at how we have treated transgendered individuals?

I just put myself in those shoes for 5 hours. What on earth would I think? How much hate would I feel? How fucked up/strange/weird would I feel?

I have a very uneasy feeling in my soul about the vociferous opposition to transgenderism on MN currently. It doesn't sit comfortably with me.

I came across this story just now and it's typical of I suppose what the feminist MNers want transgender people to face. I.e. that they can't...

Should she compete as a girl? Or AIBU?

There are separate categories for a reason, and every time a man competes as a woman they take a spot away from a woman, basically cheating

Evening,

Thanks for all your reports. We're going to take this down now, as we think it's pretty goady.

Oh FFS MN that's a bad call.

@SophieLMumsnet

Please can you leave the thread and just delete the inappropriate comments.

It’s been educational and informative other than the OP.

I understand but rather you didn't @MNHQ.

It's actually a good example of the gaslighting we are expected to tolerate.

Would it be possible to keep the thread but close additional comments instead?

I don't care about wasting my own time engaging and improving my research skills/portugese - I really don't - but am sick of deletions when a thread has not gone the way the OP wanted.

This thread really needs to stay.

I’m beyond sick of MNHQ bailing out OP’s when they misjudge a thread.

Come on MNHQ, you can do better than this.

Yes, please leave it up @SophieLMumsnet, and just show the troll the way out. It's actually been a very informative discussion.

@MNHQ please don't delete the thread. This has been a calm, well debated discussion apart from the OP's posts this evening, it shouldn't be that those posts mean the whole discussion is lost.

@sophielmumsnet Please don't take down a 28 page thread because of one knob. There's been so much good discussion on here. Just delete her comments.

Does the 2 strikes rule apply on AIBU or just FWR?

🤢 your born a girl or boy, end off

Please reconsider, @SophieLMumsnet. There's so many rich resources on this thread.

DeRigueurMortis has an great compromise you could consider - keep the thread but close additional comments.

I think the thread should stay. It’s been very informative.

You can’t chnge what you are!

I would like to see this thread stay up as well.

These are real points women are having to argue, constantly, in real life. To delete the thread just silences women who stand up for their right to women's sport, yet again.

Just FWR. Obvs.

Well said, Michelle.

So, the OP got what they wanted.

To delete the thread just silences women who stand up for their right to women's sport, yet again

I guess that was the point of the OP

Thank you for reinstating this thread as I think it's an important one full of reasoned explanations as to why this isn't ok and shows the support for women's rights from outside of the FWR board.

Ooh it’s back.