Harry and Meghan-part 2

[BertrandRussell]

Following on from this -it was just getting interesting. Someone posted about how Meghan called herself a feminist but hadn’t earned the title. I was interested to know how you earned the title- but the thread ended.

@CatherineOfAragonsPrayerBook

If she wore Primark she'd be applauded, the high street needs all the support and good press it can get.
You’re being obtuse, first openly black/ mixed race woman in the royal family should wear primark whilst Kate is in Alexander McQueen!!

Ghanagirl is so tiresome.

Yes H&M are annoying in how they are playing cat ad mouse with the media and they need to get better advisors.

I’ve not commented much on these threads but quite frankly if my mother had died whilst being pursued by paparazzi I’d do everything in my power to protect my spouse & child just as Harry is!

@GoldenRule
I’m tiresome I guess you think I should no my place and keep quite.
Not going to happen.

No to Meg wearing Primark but she could wear more high street & mix it up a bit. Reiss/Zara/Hush that sort of thing. Thought she looked good at Wimbledon.

I suppose the Primark comment is a bit flippant, but Kate wears quite a lot of high street, more so than Meghan.

I would love to see Meghan back in something like the stories shirt she wore early on.

A thought that occurred to me looking at recent photos of H&M is that the power balance seems to have shifted. He looks less of the smitten kitten and much more in control whereas she looks somewhat subdued. He doesn’t look quite so adoringly at her and on several occasions has actually frowned at her whilst she looks searchingly at his face. She appears to have more of a vulnerability about her in contrast to the super confident air she had before.

Maybe I’m reading too much into it but I wouldn’t be surprised if this “no press thing” is much more Harry’s doing. Perhaps he’s seeking more of a position of authority in their relationship and testing Meghan, her loyalty and love. There have been a number of subtle hints that they didn’t really know each other before trying the knot - indeed how could they have with just a handful of holidays whilst living in separate continents through their fairly short courtship.

I really hope for Meghan that it isn’t a case of marry in haste repent at leisure. I also hope that she’s not being squashed into the position of taking the brunt of flak for what is possibly mostly Harry’s doing.

She has just given birth to his child. What a great man that makes him if your suspicions are correct. Everyone seems to be desperate for this to be the case

“Perhaps he’s seeking more of a position of authority in their relationship and testing Meghan, her loyalty and love.”

Fuck me, I hope not....

Can you imagine being married a Prince, someone who has always been surrounded by people who are either in awe of them or desperate to be mates with them.

Can't imagine they have been told no many times in their entire lifes.

I would imagine both William and Harry are hard work to be married too.

Quite @mrscampbellblackagain

The sense of entitlement is there from day one as they are literally princes! It’s nigh on impossible for anyone outside of the RF to relate to them in a normal way because there will always be a hierarchy in the relationship. No matter how close and good friends they have, friend will always be aware that they are friends with a prince.

It must on some deep level cause anxiety and insecurity that they will never truly know if they are loved for them or in part because of their title. I’m not doubting whether Kate or Meghan really do love their husbands. Love grows with time and familiarity. But would either women have chosen William or Harry if they were just Joe Bloggs from the street? I would say that both women are brighter and more attractive than their spouses.

I’ve not commented much on these threads but quite frankly if my mother had died whilst being pursued by paparazzi I’d do everything in my power to protect my spouse & child just as Harry is!
Yep and he has all the money and resources in the world to bow out of public life as a Royal and go and live somewhere quiet and unassuming with is wife and child. He can pay for his own security with the millions his mother left him and live in peace and out of the media scrutiny forever. But he isn’t going to do that is he? And moreover his wife wouldn’t let him.

Why moreover @nelsonmuntzslingshot?

How does anyone know what Meghan “lets” or doesn’t “let” Harry do? Is he a child without a mind of his own? I think most likely it is Harry who is in the position of power now that they are married. I’m not sure Meghan would have fully appreciated the prison she was entering by agreeing to marry Harry as he was so overly accommodating of her wishes during courtship. False sense of security perhaps? It is becoming increasingly clear that the firm is tightening its grip on Meghan. She has two choices really. Succumb to the will of the RF or divorce.

DiditagainOops
I agree with you. The dynamics to my eyes appeared to have changed.
He appears less the "smitten kitten" as you call it and she appears more vulnerable.
I'm sure others will differ.

For a couple who claim they want to be more low key, they aren't half drawing attention to themselves.
It's laughable and quite irritating really.

You write a lot of sense, DiditagainOops; it's always annoyed me when any spouses of the RF get the lion's share of the flak since the decisions aren't necessarily theirs - or at least not exclusively

Still, anything to burnish the royals' image I guess ... whoever said "the whipping boy" was dead?

Tragic though it was that Harry lost his mum.
Let's not pretend that Diana didn't court media attention when it suited her.
It has been well documented that she used to call newspapers and tip them off.
I think Harry has inherited his mother's penchant for drama and attention whilst wailing 'please leave me alone you dreadful people'

“'Fuck me, I hope not....'

Very, erm, intelligent contribution grin”

Perfectly natural response to the suggestion that a husband is becoming more controlling of his wife.

' I think Harry has inherited his mother's penchant for drama and attention whilst wailing 'please leave me alone you dreadful people'

Diana had a number of MH issues which were not really understood and, as a result, fully supported by the RF. Harry would have naturally absorbed a lot of this as he was born at the height of her bulimia and unhappiness.

The above is an absolute example of someone who struggles with MH.

I haven't seen a lot of attention generated because of this Christening. It's quite ridiculous that some people are bothered about who are going to be godparents , whom they will have forgotten in a year, or even about the Christening itself. The baby is only two months old, Meghan still on mat leave so the last thing they need is media frenzy. Were Zara's children's Christenings well publicised? If they were, I didn't see them
None of my business.

We will see plenty of the family before long. I don't grudge them a bit of peace for now.

I wish people were a bit kinder and am eternally grateful that I do not have a high profile and can live without anyone being particularly interested in me or mine.

The baby shower was ostentatious and vulgar? I’m not saying it wasn’t- but how do we know it was?

I’m not sure Meghan would have fully appreciated the prison she was entering by agreeing to marry Harry ...

Precisely what I've been saying from the start. Like every other couple I hope it all works out for them, but when two people from such completely different, utterly dysfunctional backgrounds come together with such haste, assumptions about the future are perhaps unwise

It is becoming increasingly clear that the firm is tightening its grip on Meghan. She has two choices really. Succumb to the will of the RF or divorce

Just like every other spouse who's married into the RF, in fact. They're not going to change for "outsiders", no matter how much of a "breath of fresh air" they happen to be, so good luck with that