Harry and Meghan-part 2

[BertrandRussell]

Following on from this -it was just getting interesting. Someone posted about how Meghan called herself a feminist but hadn’t earned the title. I was interested to know how you earned the title- but the thread ended.

Kate’s clothes cost nothing like the Dior, Ralph and Russo and Givenchy couture Meghan wears.

Not that Kate is frugal, but she’s not above wearing Zara and other high street brands.

It would be god PR if Meghan were to wear high street and RTW by British designers.

Kate wears tonnes of couture. She’s a huge fan of Alexander McQueen ffs.

Kate is also the future queen. Meghan is the modern-day Sarah Ferguson to Kate's Diana.

Most of it is RTW.

Kate’s clothes are very boring and quite “mumsy” - Meghan has a much better eye for style and a much more polished look. If i see another Alexander Mc Queen coatdress in pastel I will barf. Go Meghan - you’re a breath of fresh air!

A breath of fresh air? It that all it takes. Just enjoy spending extravagantly, let us all eat cake eh.

Does anyone have any information on how much the PR budget for M& H and K & W is per annum, and also how it is funded? i.e. who pays for it?

And are they audited? I mean, like a lot of businesses or public sector funding is audited. Do they have to show value for money or justify wasteful spending and be fined if they have been shown to have spent wastefully? What parameters apply to their spending and how is this enforced?

Dora, Kate does look lovely though, quite classic.

Kate is also the future queen

Okay fine. But this needs to work both ways.

So if Meghan should be more modest in clothes because she’s a lesser royal then surely we shouldn’t expect the same exposure to her child as we expect from the Cambridge’s

Yet she was crucified for apparently giving less access up thread (even though that wasn’t even the case).

I suspect Meghan is limiting access to her child not for privacy reasons, as she pretends, but with a view to maximising likes for a big reveal on Instagram, Kardashian-style

I'd like to be proven wrong and see them present the baby to the press in a straightforward way, like Kate and Will did with their dc.

But everything H & M associate themselves with seems so tacky and attention seeking.

It is the case though Laurie. No information released until after the baby was born. No proper photos even now and the baby is about 2 months old. There were proper photos where you could actually see their faces at 2-4 weeks. So it's just not true to say access has been the same.

Sorry photos of the Cambridge dc

No proper photos even now and the baby is about 2 months old. There were proper photos where you could actually see their faces at 2-4 weeks

The photos have been more or less the same as bertrands pic of the face clearly demonstrated.

quit peddling this unfounded bullshit

No they haven't. They showed the baby a couple of days after he was born, which is similar to the pics of the Cambridge children leaving hospital. Then just that silly one of his feet and the one on Father's Day with half his face obscured. The only other pics have been the ones with the queen where you can't actually see him.
Kate released proper photos of her children when they were between 2-4 weeks old. Ones where you can actually see their faces.
Laurie, putting your instructions to me in bold, doesn't make them more accurate.

Here you go. Princess Charlotte at 4 weeks

This business about the photographs of the baby is just extraordinary. So far, the Sussexes have done a photocall when the baby was 2 days old, and released 3 pictures-one of both families, and two cutesy not-to-everyone’s taste Instagram pictures. So 4 images altogether. Also, Harry gave a charming and emotional interview with the press on the day the baby was born. The Cambridges did the steps of the hospital thing, then one more picture at 5 weeks-ish. But somehow the Sussexes are “hiding” the baby! And someone said about keeping us waiting about the name. It was announced in 2 days. We waited 4 days for Louis!

Why does it matter so much that they haven't released loads of photographs? As BertrandRussell said, they've released some. We'll see more of Archie in time. I can wait :-).

About transport and clothing costs, specifically for royal tours ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these expenses charged to the Home Office? And are those costs conveniently omitted from the total of "pennies" they're said to cost us?

As said, the whole thing's about much more than money for me, but I just wonder if it isn't an opportunity for a bit more chiselling on the taxpayer's money?

“About transport and clothing costs, specifically for royal tours ... someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these expenses charged to the Home Office? And are those costs conveniently omitted from the total of "pennies" they're said to cost us?”

Yep. And all their security costs. We pay those but they aren’t included in the £1.24 each.

They know that royal followers want to see the baby and the artsy half pictures and ones of his feet are not allowing people to do that. It does give the impression they are hiding him and only engaging with the public when they absolutely have to or when it suits them.
Now that's probably true of lots of members of the RF, but the Cambridge's for ex seem to be doing a better job of recognising that they need public support to maintain the monarchy long term.
It's not that the photos really matter except in the context of wanting privacy in some respects while at the same time enjoying status and money which derives from their position.
It just doesn't feel respectful of public interest and the two way nature of the relationship.
I'm repeating myself but they don't have to be active royals if privacy is genuinely their priority.

Thanks, Bertrand; yes, I believe the security thing's pretty well known (?), but the foreign tour costs hadn't occurred to me before - or maybe I'm just being dense!!

Thinking of the examples we've been given about leisure activities "just happening" to coincide with a very quick visit, I wonder just what abuses those passed-on tour costs might encourage ...