To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

hopefully more professional teachers. It's very competitive to get into teaching and there wouldn't be a shortage where I live anyway.

I agree. They had to make it less competitive because people already doing it we’re leaving and insufficient numbers of newer graduates were signing up. So use your brains - what is going to happen?

*were

The teacher friends I have who don't moan are the ones who worked in other careers beforehand.

I moan like a drain. I had a decade in the City before teaching.

@butterflywings37 rather than 12-14 days in their previous careers they are now working 8-9 hour days plus 3 months holiday per year. They get to spend a lot more time with their family etc. They do work hard but just less. They all say they've never looked back and really love their jobs.

Are they really actually moaning? Or just saying they are tired.Moaning is a really negative and loaded word, used by others to diminish another person and invalidate their arguments. Often used by managers. I actually never talk about work outside of work, other than to my DH. I listen to his 'moans' and he to mine.

I come across constant moans from others about Brexit, climate change, politics, waiting times at doctors, the heat. I suck it up. People may vent if they wish.

I am also fed up to the back teeth of this rhetoric that career teachers are not entitled to pass comment and are somehow less worthy than career changers.

Sorry to moan, mind.

@herculepoirot2 sorry to hear that but........you can always make the change. Maybe it's not for you. You have the power to make the change. Plenty of people have. Hope it gets better either way. Bring in a career you dislike is really awful,

hercule

Teachers have an amazing camaraderie.

sorry to hear that but........you can always make the change. Maybe it's not for you. You have the power to make the change. Plenty of people have. Hope it gets better either way. Bring in a career you dislike is really awful

I did. I left because it was dysfunctional.

@cherriesandoranges, between just 3 and 5? That’s when you think ALL marking can get done?

Right. Sure, Jan.

So, I teach four or five classes a day. Let’s say the first class is small, only 13 students, the second class is 28 students, the third is 27 students, the fourth is another small group at 16 students, and the fifth class is 23 students.

Assuming everybody has something written in their books that day, and they should, since mine is a heavy-on-written-element subject, that makes 107 books to mark, give or take a couple away for absence. So, you want me to apparently mark 107 books effectively in 120 minutes? All before it starts again tomorrow, and they put more work into their books to mark?

You actually have no idea what you’re talking about. Or a fundamental misunderstanding of maths. One of the two.

Being tired and overworked doesn't make you special - its just part of life!

Absolutely agree and I say that as a teacher and so has pretty much every teacher on this thread. Please point to me where a teacher says they have the most tiring job in the world? You won’t be able to because they haven’t.

The problem that teaching/education has is that because people have had ‘experience’ of school, they feel they can be derogatory about it and not take a ‘tired’ comment for what it is.

Be honest-you get two posts on social media, both saying they are exhausted and can’t wait for their holiday.

One is from a teacher. The other is from your Dbro on his building site. I bet you would judge the teacher but not blink an eyelid for your DBro’s post.

Piggywaspushed

Oh god, absolutely. Like career teachers are idiots and don’t understand when their managers and government are taking this piss.

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@Piggywaspushed yeah they are moaning. Proper moaning. (but not all of them as per previous post) some of them talk lots about how they love it and all the stuff they do with the kids or to help the kids. Others moan they have to work "extra" hours. I think the issue is about perception. I think some people get into it thinking it is a 6-7 hour day and it's not.

As a teacher I find it is probably no more tiring than any other profession, but as I stated before we often get no breaks and our day does not end at 3.30. We also have to work at weekends too.

@herculepoirot2 fair enough. Sounds like a good decision.

cherriesandoranges

It was. But that is what I am saying: conditions are driving teachers out of the profession. What’s the end game?

It's fair enough to say that they are tired or need a break. The comment that “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is ridiculous though, if anyone actually say this.

@cherriesandoranges

Don't we all moan (if that is what you want to call it about our jobs)?

Are 12-14 hour days really the standard we are going for now?

@SachaStark yes I'm assuming they are managing it between 3-5 as that's what they are saying. I have no reason to believe they are lying to underestimate the problem whilst moaning, that makes no sense. You do sound totally miserable in your career though. You can change it if it's really that bad. I hope things get better for you either way.

I was a teacher for 17 years. I left because the workload was too much and I couldn’t achieve anywhere near a balance with family life. I’ve worked out of teaching for 4 years now with nowhere near the same level of tiredness and stress. Much fewer ‘holidays’ (teachers don’t get paid for all the school holidays), but I don’t need the holidays in the same way now. That’s not to say there’s no other jobs which are demanding and intense for periods of time, but teaching is one of them.

I’m sure there are other careers (nhs, police, etc) where you’re working yourself into the ground every day, and working ridiculous hours, and more and more likely covering the workload of absent colleagues, and positions that haven’t been filled.

Yes, I’m also leaving this year. Like many other outstanding teachers, because the job is completely unattainable if you want to also have a life outside of the job.

What is it that you don’t understand about the hours being longer than what you believe them to be? Do you honestly not understand that to mark books properly, the number of minutes HAS TO BE significantly higher than the number of books?

@herculepoirot2 yeah I agree. The govt need to invest more into education. We need more teachers but they won't invest. It is competitive to get into teaching where I live and probably because there are very few posts.

This is the fucking frustrating thing. NONE OF US are saying that we have The Hardest Job Ever. We are just saying that so many people spread lies and falsehoods about how much we work, because, when it comes down to it, they don’t know a single thing about our jobs.

Take @cherriesandoranges, not even in the same country, ergo commentary about “friends who are teachers” is hilariously misinformed and irrelevant!