To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

I came off FB 2 years ago - I highly recommend it. If you don't see it, it won't piss you off

Anyone else think it's weird that people still send their kids to school since teachers are so bad?

Not really - what is the fine per day of unauthorised absence? Other parents have told me an EWO has threatened their DC, school refusing due to unmet SEND, that their DM will end up in jail?

Homeschooling is an option, you don’t have to send your kids to school at all.

There's always one, in this case it's mont.
Satire? Sarcasm? Humour?

Yours is a totally different point and nothing to do with the thread

Not really - what is the fine per day of unauthorised absence?

No fines at all when you home school, you’ll be pleased to hear .

Yours is a totally different point and nothing to do with the thread

No, I am pointing out why parents have to send their children to school - and while some may be able to afford for one to be a SAHP, all those couples where both parents have to work to pay the mortgage do not have the luxury of home educating, do they?

And as women on MN frequently point out to SAHMs, they run the risk of having no career, pension, etc in the event of divorce.

Lizzie3869 I teach ESOL and EFL and yes, teaching people 18+ is easier but my god the paperwork, targets etc is all the same as we are under Ofsted too.

We have just done 2 weeks of exams - teachers are heavily involved in these too - and now I'm thinking of September, enrolment, classes, different levels.

The other difference with what I teach is that we don't really have a decent / up to date syllabus anymore so every year we create or adapt new materials.

Like others have said on here you gave to be passionate about your subject if you teach. And as I wrote before, you cannot do everything asked of you. That way lies burn out

@MontStMichel has an excellent point. Many children are thoroughly miserable at school but they are compelled to attend. If they refuse then families are threatened by the authorities.

All the teachers complaining about the “little sh*ts” wearing them out have a captive audience. Yes, as a teacher you may be worn out at the end of the year and you all come to that stage at the same time. But the exhaustion of being the parent of a school-refusing child is another thing entirely.

If you think teachers have it so it easy, then go ahead and become one. Then feel free to comment on how easy or difficult the job is.

If not, then accept you know very little about the difficulties facing teachers. It isn't a race to the bottom either.

I'm not a teacher either fwiw, but do work in the public sector, so am familiar with the general public having misconceptions regarding how hard I work or how much I am paid (I'm a junior doctor).

Mont

Be that as it may, school isn’t childcare. How you care for your children while you work is your problem. If your answer to that is to send them to school, you don’t also get to dictate how that is going to work. The State offers to educate your children; the alternative is to do it yourself.

I might have missed it, but I don't remember seeing any teacher on her call the pupils "little shits" and this is not generally how they would talk about pupils. The parents, on the other hand...

I love the way people always think these are mutually exclusive : I am both a full time teacher AND a parent! In fact, the parent of a(happily now ex) school refusing child. So, I feel your pain not but imagine - if you will - doing a full time teaching job that is almost impossible to fulfil while your DC is refusing to go to a different school. Yes, that was bloody exhausting. And humiliating. And distressing.

All the teachers complaining about the “little shts” wearing them out*

Is that something that, like the OP, you THINK might start to be posted on social media. You know, rather than actually really happening?

The thing I find really interesting is that the only people really in a position to judge how the job compares are those who have done other jobs as well as teaching. The overwhelming majority of those will say teaching is by far the hardest job they have done- as some posters on this thread have done. In many such threads the same remarks are made and yet still it isn't believed that the job is hard. Note I have said the hardest job they have done - not the hardest job in the world. No teacher ever claims that- just everyone insists they do.
The lack of respect for teachers in this country is one of the reasons we have many of the problems in society we do. James O'Brien spoke at length the other day about the damage done by the media slating teachers for thirty years and it was fascinating to listen too and so very true. The most successful education systems in the world are those where teachers are held in high regard. The reasons why teachers constantly reiterate what the job entails and how hard it is is because so many people refuse to believe it in spite of the overwhelming evidence to the contrary. In Ireland the job is as people perceive it to be here and getting a teaching job is nigh on impossible as it is so popular. So I don't see how it is such a great leap to realise that if we have a massive recruitment and retention problem here then it can't be that good a job. 50,000 teachers leaving a year. Many more wanting to go but stuck for financial reasons. It's not rocket science.

Look at the first page of this topic.

@codemonkey
Says: Perhaps they're knackered after looking after little shits all day, especially the ones whose parents moan all the time about teachers. I would be.

I wonder why parents might be offended?

@NotBeingRobbed that post is not from a teacher though.

I got a card once from a parent with "thank you for looking after my little shit" or fairly similar. That has no bearing on how I actually felt about that kid,or kids in general.

@ferretface

**YANBU OP. No sympathy for people playing the tiredness Olympics, you never know what someone else is going through.

Apart from teachers though, obviously?

I'm just waiting for all the usual posts where parents start moaning how fed up they are/knackered they are about 2 days into the school holidays.

The thing is teaching is often not what you just see at school. I am absolutely knackered.

Week before last I worked out I spent over 78hrs at school.

This weekend, I was at school yesterday from 10.45am until 1am! I spent 9hours proof reading and editing end of year reports, and then attended the PTA summer party. This involved being responsible, dealing with paramedics and very drunk parents causing problems at the end of the event, I was the sober adult who needed to lock up etc... I finally got home at 1.45am, then was back in school at 10.15am, having only managed 6hrs sleep before I was woken by a really noisy dog in the street, made the mums clearing up from a party tea and coffee and then got back to the grindstone. I left around 3.30pm.

I think i’m quite entitled to say I’m knackered, just as anyone else in any profession, or who indeed has a difficult child or children, or who has a complex situation going on at home and who is working to the limit can.

Teaching is indeed relentless and knackering in term time and I do feel for anyone trying to keep a class of kids on track at this point in the year with the heat BUT the holidays make up for it. 5 weeks a year holiday?! No thanks!

YANBU. I work in a profession that loves to talk / post about our poor working conditions, understaffing, low pay, and how others have "never known tiredness like it". I entered the profession late in life and before I did, it always pissed me off that these people thought they had a monopoly on hard work and feeling exhausted. Now that I'm in that profession, I still feel the same. Yes, I work hard. The profession is poorly funded/paid. I do lots of unpaid overtime. I'm tired. The same is true of my DH who owns a small business, and of my DBro who works on a building site, and of my DM who raised us in the day and did her paid job at night. Being tired and overworked doesn't make you special - its just part of life!

But the holidays make up for it

Well clearly they don't or the teachers wouldn't all be leaving.

@LyndaLaHughes Just my opinion, some will agree, others won’t.

I work as a field engineer and am outside regardless of weather for at least 8 hours a day. It was 38 on Friday, and we can see -20 or lower in the winter (Canada).

I chose my career and love it despite the harsh conditions, but competitive misery seems to be the wheelhouse of teachers and the whinging is almost expected these days.