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To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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Rainbowsandglitterbullshit · 28/06/2019 18:26

The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

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Cinammoncake · 29/06/2019 20:10

I see what you mean about the holidays then but it sort of weakens the argument, as it gives the impression teachers would be paid a fair bit more pro rata ie a decent wage. In reality since you have no choice over when to take the holidays and will have to work some of them, your annual salary is your salary (which is not enough for what you're being asked to do) iyswim. But saying you don't get paid for the holidays isn't a good argument imo.

Anyway, it's not like you can spread the work out evenly over the year, so having the holidays doesn't compensate for the stress of being in the thick of it I should think.

JennyBlueWren · 29/06/2019 20:13

I'm a teacher and I am tired but haven't felt the need to moan about it on facebook. I have seen some memes being passed around though.

For me the tiredness of end of year isn't because we've taught for 13 weeks (the longest term we have here) broken up by some bank holidays (which actually make for more tiring less routine weeks) but because the children are in end of term mode and I have a long list of jobs to get done with the deadline of next week.

There are practical jobs -clearing out my classroom (and I always ensure it is clear of everything not just the stuff I put in), moving things to my new room, moving the children's things, ensuring they all take the right stuff home.

Admin tasks -handover notes, filing, reports for children moving to new schools, updating progress trackers, requesting support for children for next year, evaluating support given this year. These are all set for a two week timeframe and cannot be done sooner or later.

Emotional work -many children need to talk to me out of class time as they find the transition to a new teacher, mix up of friendships, long summer, hard. The classroom is too busy a place to talk so they need time outside of that.

And on top of that I still have to plan and carry out lessons (although I've cut my marking down to a minimum). These lessons actually have to be better than usual as my audience is thinking about other things -new teacher, summer holidays!

Timetabling is all over the place with special events on too.

And I still have to come home and cook dinner and play with children and put them to bed (and hope they sleep through) and up at 5am with them...

And other proffessions have their moan about a particularly busy time -End of tax year for many finance people. Or towards the end of a particular project or when there is a contract up for bidding/renegotiation.

So yes we moan, but not because we don't like our jobs or because we're the only ones suffering. And it is spread around SM because teachers are friends with teachers and we all hit this around the same time (although USA and Ireland earlier, Scotland now and England later).

JennyBlueWren · 29/06/2019 20:15

Just noticed that I said that I'd cut the marking down... and I'm sitting here with a pile of writing jotters to mark! I will have it cut down next week!

Yabbers · 29/06/2019 20:18

have a long list of jobs to get done

Same as pretty much anyone in any job.

Cinammoncake · 29/06/2019 20:20

From an outsider perspective I think teaching is probably tolerable for people without dcs who can literally rest in the holidays, but must be horrendous for those with dcs because there is no break whatsoever. I really admire teachers but especially those with dcs to look after too.

shellysheridan · 29/06/2019 20:33

No teacher has said they are more tired. Just that they are tired.

Why are people saying they are?

If someone criticises your job, you explain what it's like to try and help people understand who don't do the job.

This is seen as being defensive and whinging.

Fact - teaching is tiring, like many other jobs. I agree it is the constantly performing aspect that makes it so draining. It is more tiring than other jobs I have done but ultimately I haven't done every job so can't compare and don't really want to.

I am looking forward to the holidays to spend time with my own children. I know I'm incredibly lucky to have this time

Bumper1969 · 29/06/2019 20:41

Stop feeding the OP, enjoy your holidays. I am, goady person. Fuck her and anyone else who demands you justify your job.

LolaSmiles · 29/06/2019 20:54

Stop feeding the OP, enjoy your holidays. I am, goady person. Fuck her and anyone else who demands you justify your job.
👏👏👏

I enjoy teaching. It has its pros and its cons. As long as I like it, I'll stay. If not, I'll leave. In the mean time, I'll enjoy the holidays, do what's reasonably required for the job and not give a rat's arse what whining gits think.

northernruth · 29/06/2019 21:24

Teaching is hard work

Teachers are, by and large, moany fuckers

These two things are both true

Barbie222 · 29/06/2019 21:29

God, those memes annoy me, and I'm a teacher. Like everything else on the internet though, it will be happily bouncing around someone's echo chamber - just not yours.

Pieceofpurplesky · 29/06/2019 21:38

Working time directive states the following. As teachers work the set hours and are part of the directive this is how it works

To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts
BelindasGleeTeam · 29/06/2019 21:41

Fully intend enjoying my summer. Yes I'll spend some time in my classroom and evenings doing some work....but it'll be when and how much I choose to.

If you fancy that kind of holidays then come and join us. An academic subject degree should qualify you for reaching secondary.

You too can work 9-3, 37 weeks a year. Pay progression is a bit iffy but you just need to get the results (dead easy, right?) and you'll shoot up the scale.

Right now, the more the merrier.

noblegiraffe · 29/06/2019 21:45

Do you think that teachers got a 5.6 week pay rise when the holiday entitlement came in?

What just happened was someone waved their hand and went ‘teachers get that in their holidays’.

If someone works a maternity contract then they don’t automatically earn the summer holiday pay. If the person they are covering chooses to come back at the start of the summer holiday, they, and not the maternity cover get the holiday pay.

It’s a fudge, it doesn’t work the same way as other professions.

Member869894 · 29/06/2019 21:46

Noone works harder /longer hours than teachers.
Says every teacher I've ever met..

Myothercarisalsoshit · 29/06/2019 22:01

member
Noone works harder /longer hours than teachers.
I know, right? But at least we get all those 'holidays'
Wink

echt · 29/06/2019 22:03

Noone works harder /longer hours than teachers.Says every teacher I've ever met..

How odd that in 40+ years of teaching, I've never heard any teacher say this, or write it.

Member869894 · 29/06/2019 22:03

My other, but you do

daisyboocantoo · 29/06/2019 22:10

This is the weirdest thread ever.

I am a TA. No intention of ever being a teacher because it's hard and they work a lot. I respect them.

I have also never ever heard teachers complain like some PP.

BoneyBackJefferson · 29/06/2019 22:13

daisyboocantoo
This is the weirdest thread ever.

TBH, its a pretty standard thread, there will be more of them as we progress towards the holidays (and in some cases are starting the holidays)

And they always go the same way, we are pretty much down to the last ditch GFs now.

LolaSmiles · 29/06/2019 22:19

TBH, its a pretty standard thread, there will be more of them as we progress towards the holidays (and in some cases are starting the holidays)
Can I start taking bets on how far into the holidays before the threads about how hard it is having 2 kids at home all day is and the associated leaps to summer holidays are outdated, teachers don't need all that holiday anyway, it's such a cushy job having 6 weeks off from 150 kids a day, so cushy that I'm at my wits end with my children.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 29/06/2019 22:32

LolaSmiles
I'm going for some time in the first week.
Other threads:
What does this comment on my child's report mean? (just ask you muppet)
The country is bankrupt, how come teachers are all on holiday in Bali?
Why should I buy anything for bastard teachers when they are soooo well paid for what they do? (don't bother, muppet)
etc etc etc
I really can't be arsed.

Wodkavodka · 29/06/2019 22:38

Anyone else think it's weird that peaople still send their kids to school since teachers are so bad?

Myothercarisalsoshit · 29/06/2019 22:40

Wodkavodka
I know! Innit?

Bumper1969 · 29/06/2019 22:52

I'm a teacher and I'm drinking gin.

Myothercarisalsoshit · 29/06/2019 22:54

Bumper
That's a scandal! Will nobody think of the children????

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