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To feel the rage with “teacher tired” posts

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Rainbowsandglitterbullshit · 28/06/2019 18:26

The season of teachers posting SM messages “no one knows tired like an end of term teacher/TA/dinner lady” is almost upon us.

I want to scream, what about the fuckers who work stupid hours all week and don’t get 6 weeks off in the summer, half term, two weeks Easter, two weeks at Christmas.

I wouldn’t be a teacher for all the tea in China but these people chose their career.

Grrr, actually don’t care if I’m BU.

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fedup21 · 28/06/2019 21:14

An the fact you work evenings is because you finish at 3pm

I have been teaching for a very long time and have never finished at 3. I’m usually leaving work at 5.30/6. Then do three hours work in the evenings.

But feel free to talk made-up bollocks.

TakenForSlanted · 28/06/2019 21:14

YABU, OP, sorry!

I come from a family of teachers. In fact, pretty much everyone alive and physically related to me teaches something or other from nursery to postgrad.

I'm the lone non-teacher. I'm in tech consulting and I'm in upper management but not quite a partner yet. I work 60-80 hours a week.

But if I calculate my hourly salary in comparison to the rest of my family's - ridiculous hours or not - I'm filthy rich! I outearned my mother, a head teacher at the time, three years after walking out of university as a freshly minted and green behind my ears graduate.

And, most of all: I have the incredible privilege of being able to utterly and completely fuck up at work without it meaning anything more than money at the end of the day. If I lose 50 million, I'll probanly get the sack and I'll probably deserve it and everyone will still have dinner with their families that night.

One of my cousins lost a child on a field trip. Tragic accident. Giggling, over-excited kids, reckless driver. One child was hit by a car and didn't make it.

I'd much rather my insane hours and my plush executive salary, the bonus and the comfort of knowing it's only money than the terror of knowing that if I screw up I might literally lose someone's son or daughter or even just be responsible for emotional trauma.

Teachers work incredibly hard, have an insane amount of responsibility and don't get anywhere near enough credit or compensation.

INeedNewShoes · 28/06/2019 21:14

I spend far too much time on Mumsnet and can only recall one such thread started by a teacher saying how much she needed the end of term to arrive.

I think that anyone claiming their job is more tiring than all other jobs would definitely grate on others but I've not seen/heard/read this.

I am not a teacher. I know some teachers. They work bloody hard. They do not work 9-3 five days a week but much much more than that.

Nowadays the level of pastoral care and safeguarding by teachers has shot up for a multitude of reasons.

Even without that I would find a job that entailed looking after and educating 30 pupils all day absolutely knackering and they often have to put up with absolute shit from pupils and parents. I wouldn't do it. Thank God there are people in this country who are willing to do it.

mumsneedwine · 28/06/2019 21:15

Yup. I start at 8.30. And finish at 3. It's amazing that I manage to plan, mark, do endless stuff with data, pastoral care, staff meetings, parent meetings, parents evenings, meeting with social care professionals, and all the other crap during the same time I'm in front of 30 teenagers. It's amazing since I am so lazy. I work v short days, have v long holidays and my life is a so very easy. Can't understand why there is a teacher shortage as it's such an easy job. And the holidays are awesome, as spending some of them away with other people's kids is such a break for me. And dealing with public exams results in August isn't in my holiday time - it magically is really in September when I'm actually paid.
Love Island is a bit dull tonight.

noblegiraffe · 28/06/2019 21:15

getintoteaching.education.gov.uk/

Still plenty of training places left for September as the government fails to meet its recruitment targets again.

Come on in, the water’s lovely.

superram · 28/06/2019 21:17

YABVU!!!!!!!! I was a teacher (part time) until 8 weeks ago. I now work in a city job with a long commute, longer hours, and 25 days holiday. I’m knackered-but it’s not the same bone tiredness knackered as a teacher. You don’t want to teach so fuck off with your judgyness until you’ve done 20 years.

BoneyBackJefferson · 28/06/2019 21:18

Shayne11
In the real world people on a 52 week contract get 4 weeks holidays not 13. That’s a fact.

You missed the bank holidays, so not "fact".;

An the fact you work evenings is because you finish at 3pm

Ah yes the teaching hours myth. again not a fact

Try doing 8 till 6pm every day AND taking work home for the evening.

Try doing 7, 12 hour days + 7, 12 hour nights, 7 on 7 off, 2s and 3s or a rolling 8 hour continental shift, then we can actually compare notes. (Just FYI we can also match up on 8am till 6pm on time sensitive contracts).

If teaching is soooo tiring try that.

see above

And popping in now and again over the holidays I’d not working 10 solid hours no matter how you add it up.

No shit Sherlock.

Back to you.

Lets play some more. back to you.

m0therofdragons · 28/06/2019 21:20

I just smile with a head tilt... then I head to the hospital to work my nhs shift.

Ime the ones who complain have only ever known teaching and think the grass is always greener. Dbil is lovely but exactly like this, to the point that he came to meet our twin babies (also had a toddler) the second week in September and stayed 3 nights because of distance. He napped in the afternoon two days in a row because he was tired and we only had 3 dc whereas he'd been teaching 30dc all week so we couldn't understand how tired he was.

FYI so prem dtds who been in special care with dtd1 needing resus and nearly not coming home with us, time in scbu with both twins very up and down, a 3 yo, a csection and an infection plus loss of blood during csection but still the teacher was more tired after 2 weeks of teaching!

Head-tilt and smile. Let them think they win at tiredness top trumps. (I don't for a second think teaching is easy but many jobs aren't easy).

mumsneedwine · 28/06/2019 21:24

NO TEACHER EVER HAS SAID THEY WIN TIRED TOP TRUMPS. Ever. Not once.
They have admitted time and again that many other jobs have their stresses and in fact other jobs are more stressful. But, we can still say we are tired. And our jobs are not 9-3 and ridiculously easy. We have been called lazy and thick on this thread and as I'm tired it's pretty shitty. I spend hours ensuring your kids have a good education. Although I'm starting to think I might return to the City and just take the money and corporate entertaining.

Bumper1969 · 28/06/2019 21:27

Shayne the minute you write "in the real world" you are laughed at for a long time.

BelindasGleeTeam · 28/06/2019 21:29

God I'd never say we have is hardest.

I have no idea how anyone does rotating day and night shifts and stays sane. Nurses are bloody heroes.

But nobody says nurses are lazy, work shy and thick.

I've seen teachers referred to as all these things just on this thread.

DipDabLollyPop · 28/06/2019 21:30

Original post written by a raging receptionist by the sounds of it, professional shit stirrer if ever there was one 😂😂😂

LolaSmiles · 28/06/2019 21:31

Shayne the minute you write "in the real world" you are laughed at for a long time.

And rightly so because it's only ever used by idiots who can't get their precious little heads around the fact that different jobs have different conditions and they all form part of the real world.

They also only ever seem to use it with regards to teachers. I've never heard people say 'oh you get a company expense account for when you travel. Don't you dare talk about jet lag because in the real world nobody gets fully funded holidays' (reality, 48 hours in a city and 2 midhaul flights and working most of the trip to maximise the time).

Some people are bitter with their lot in life I guess.

BelindasGleeTeam · 28/06/2019 21:32

And hey, it's a total doss being a teacher.

Come and join us! Spread the joy and love, do your PGCE and cone and take advantage of the awesome holidays, early finishes and easy peasy days.

Anyone?

herculepoirot2 · 28/06/2019 21:34

Try doing 8 till 6pm every day AND taking work home for the evening.

But the thing is, I HAVE tried that, and still teaching was more tiring.

DipDabLollyPop · 28/06/2019 21:35

Someone needs to go back to school...😂😂😂

herculepoirot2 · 28/06/2019 21:35

*And hey, it's a total doss being a teacher.

Come and join us! Spread the joy and love, do your PGCE and cone and take advantage of the awesome holidays, early finishes and easy peasy days.

Anyone?*

😂

Literally: anyone? All these middle class professionals doing jobs far more challenging, where they never even get time to pee, and not a single volunteer?

nokidshere · 28/06/2019 21:37

Bloody hell who cares? I'm tired. And I don't work, and my children are 17 & 20 Grin and I have a cleaner.

Everyone is entitled to feel how they feel. Being tired doesn't 'belong' to anyone.

BelindasGleeTeam · 28/06/2019 21:39

You'd think it'd be the perfect job really, wouldn't you?

We could do with the extra teachers. I mentor student teachers every year.

Come and have a go if it's such an easy doss.

m0therofdragons · 28/06/2019 21:39

@mumsneedwine er dbil regularly says he wins tired top trumps. He's a teacher but not a parent. But okay you can claim whatever you like.

Redpostbox · 28/06/2019 21:40

Everyone moans about how tired they are. Why not just be nice and show some empathy? It's the kind thing to do.

BlueBuilding · 28/06/2019 21:42

Gosh these threads.
Why are people on here constantly slagging off teachers?

Give a rest.

PlinkPlink · 28/06/2019 21:42

I quit teaching after 4 years. It broke me. I couldn't hack how tired I was. I had a mental breakdown at 23 (admittedly not just because of teaching) and it totally sucked my soul out of me.

Holidays are not fucking holidays. The only holiday time you do really get is in summer holidays and even then I'd say it's a max of 3 weeks. You have no idea about the planning and paperwork and behind the scenes work that goes into it. It used to really irritate me that people thought I went off and sat on my arse for all of my 'holiday' time. I fucking wish.

YABTU because you have never been a teacher (I'm assuming) and therefore you really cannot make the assumption that teachers are just whiney bastards who get to swan off for a ridiculous amount of weeks in the year.

I have had several jobs since I left teaching and none of them ever compare to the stress levels and time consumption of teaching.

Even if you paid me a million pounds, I'd never ever go back to that bloody awful job.

mumsneedwine · 28/06/2019 21:42

Sorry. Lost interest in all the teacher bashing. Love Island has just got juicy.

Shayne11 · 28/06/2019 21:43

And your also overpaid which is why school budgets are in deficit.

Back to you.