AIBU to think Harry and Meghan are taking the piss?

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How are people not more outraged? And no, tourists do not visit the UK specifically because of the royal family.

"This year, 320,000 people were recorded as homeless in Britain"

Actually, if I had to pick out one royal person who actually made a difference it would be Diana. Her holding children who were HIV+ was a game changer. I was in the field at the time, and the difference her actions made was extraordinary. Her work with land mines was very effective too.
This is so true. I think Diana was no longer a member of the Royal Family she was a celebrity when she did the land mines campaign.
Who knows what good Meghan and Harry could do in the future. But they need to stop spouting meaningless platitudes.

But they need to stop spouting meaningless platitudes. Yes to this

I think there’s a big difference between accusing individuals of racism-which I don’t think anyone is doing- bertrand

erm yes, ghanagirl accused me of being 'a racist arsehole* this morning.

*As I said earlier, the two things that make her different from other royal brides is being a feminist and not being white

I think this is partly my problem with her politics. Feminist where? Do you mean posh elitist feminism? The kind of feminism that sees you give up your country, your religion, your occupation, take your husbands titles, agree to walk behond him, become housewife supreme, and walk around in a wardrobe (by accounts) funded by your FIL, go on engagements in clothes costing thousands to shake hands with working class women, women in need of decent formal clothing for work interviews, women juggling kids, sub-standard overly expensive daycare, working full time for less money than she spends on a pair of shoes -- women that are literally doing it all, without night nannies, or any nannies for that matter, that feminism?

I won't go into the writing cute messages on bananas to sex workers.*

I couldn't have put it better myself.

She was as mad as a chair Yes she really was bless her. We should all celebrate good even if it occurs in unexpected places.

I agree that the hypocrisy is insulting to our intelligence
I no more want to hear about MMs worthy causes than I want to hear from KM about the difficulties of motherhood or from Charles about green issues

Well said

Whatever each of us feels about the monarchy, at least the Queen keeps her mouth firmly shut on the whole. We don't get speeches about what a wonderful impact she's determined to make, we don't hear constant views on motherhood and we certainly don't get endlessly lectured about the environment. She also manages to meet other heads of state - even the unpleasant ones - without petulantly shunning events or insulting them

It's perhaps a shame she's not done more to rein in her kids' worst idiocies, but it's an even bigger one that they've so often failed to learn from her example

Are chairs particularly mad? My dining chairs just sit there doing sod all. They don’t suddenly burst into song and dance routines or start juggling frogs.

Diana enjoyed the same privileges as a royal that the modern day royals enjoy. In fact, with no social media, she probably got away with more extravance.

Why do people think her emotions were genuine and MMs are not?

For what it's worth they're all much of a muchness to me.

“Are chairs particularly mad?”

Sorry. It’s my favourite expression at the moment- Hugh Grant said it about one of his leading ladies. Can’t remember which one.......

Whatever each of us feels about the monarchy, at least the Queen keeps her mouth firmly shut on the whole. We don't get speeches about what a wonderful impact she's determined to make, we don't hear constant views on motherhood and we certainly don't get endlessly lectured about the environment. She also manages to meet other heads of state - even the unpleasant ones - without petulantly shunning events or insulting them

It's perhaps a shame she's not done more to rein in her kids' worst idiocies, but it's an even bigger one that they've so often failed to learn from her example*

Very well said.

I'm not sure the Queen really cares that much about her offspring. She used to leave the eldest two for months at a time, even before she was monarch, and I'm not sure what her relationship is like with the younger two.

The Queen is of a different generation Pineapple I don’t think it’s fair to measure her by today’s standards. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t care.

Hasn't Charles talked about the impact of being left at such a young age? Regardless of her generation, I find it sad that after returning from a 6 month tour she went to the races before going to see her children. There's footage of him jumping up and down in anticipation of seeing his mother and she just pats him on the shoulder and shakes his hand.

The queen is of my mothers generation. She was just as caring as any mother today. I’m sure she wouldn’t have shook her sons hand after 6 weeks apart. I get the impression of a cold hearted woman devoid of any emotion.

the two things that make her different from other royal brides is being a feminist and not being white

How exactly is she a feminist? This is this issue..... I know she's labelled herself as one but she married wealth and power and in order to do so, walked away from her career, country and family. What has she done to earn the title because I don't regard her as a feminist at all.

I actially think it would be great if the Queen had an opinion on the environment or land mines etc..things might get done...with such vast influence why not use ot to effect positive change?

“What has she done to earn the title because I don't regard her as a feminist at all”
A woman in her position even describing herself as a feminist is a big thing. Actually using the word. One of the things she was slammed for was talking about the education of women and girls as her charity priority at that infamous press conference. But i’m not saying that she is currently acting in a particularly feminist way. I’m saying that a lot of the criticism she’s getting is just from her describing herself in that way. I don’t honestly think she’s being criticised for not being feminist enough!

www.parent24.com/Teen_13-18/Development/how-the-11-year-old-meghan-markle-fought-the-patriarchy-20180523

It was a school project and kudos to her 11 year old self but that story has been wheeled out an awful lot in support of her self proclaimed feminist title.

I think you need a bit more to earn the label.

I didn't realize you have to 'earn ' the label feminist.

Diana enjoyed the same privileges as a royal that the modern day royals enjoy

Diana was the future Queen, Harry is now sixth in line! He is a Prince Andrew type Royal now and will become less and less relevant as William and Kates children get older.

Is is it just MM who has to earn the label? Or are we all party to this? I call myself a feminist and I certainly wasn't doing what MM was doing, aged 11.

I thought she did a good job with this article. She has consistently supported education for girls and women's charities, even before she met Harry. And her involvement with the Grenfell kitchen cookbook helped raise £500k for the women running it. Writing on bananas was naff, admittedly, but it resulted in more donations than ever before for the charity in question.

So no, she's not Germaine Greer but I don't think it's fair to say she's done nothing.

Whatever each of us feels about the monarchy, at least the Queen keeps her mouth firmly shut on the whole.

Yes, I'll give her that. The Queen doesn't, on the whole, pretend to be something she isn't.