To not give up my seat?

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Currently in the middle of a 5 hour train journey with my 7yo. We got on at the first station and will be getting off 3 stops before final station. We are sat in our reserved seats, confirmation on the little display above our heads saying reserved from our starting and finishing stations.

At the last station 20 minutes ago a man got on and said ‘you’re in my seat’ and started to move my bags. I told him I wasn’t, grabbed my bag, showed him my ticket and the seat display. He showed me his ticket and he’s also reserved for the same seat. I told him he should go and find the guard, that there are plenty of free seats (although don’t know if they’re reserved).

He won’t go and find the guard, he wants his seat. He’s now standing right next to me (probably watching me type), having just had a loud phone call (which I’m pretty sure was imaginary as we went through a tunnel) about how he can’t prepare for the presentation as a stuck up bitch won’t move out of his seat. He’s huffing and sighing and I’m wondering whether he’ll stay standing over me for the next 2.5 hours.

I don’t want ds to hear this bloke being a prick but I really don’t see why I should move. Ds is currently plugged into his iPad so hasn’t noticed.

Let him huff and puff. Not your problem. You booked the seat. Something must have gone wrong, but it’s not your fault.

As long as you are certain you are in the correct seat tehn stay put.

Have you got some earphones you could plug into?

No, I wouldn't

Have you double, triple checked your tickets and made sure you're on the right train etc?

If so then I agree with you, it's his responsibility to find a guard to sort it out - especially if you're travelling with a child. The fact that he won't makes me think he knows he's in the wrong.

No, don't move!

Is he on the correct carriage? Might be the right seat number, wrong carriage.

I just missed the bit where he grabbed your bags! Aggressive sod! You stay where you are OP. He sounds like a nasty piece of work. He’ll get tired of being passive aggressive soon enough if he sees it has no effect and he’ll find another seat.

Don't move. You've checked your ticket and the seat display, they match, he needs to find the guard not you.

Tell him loudly to stop harassing/intimidating you and ignore any further discussion. I'd get onto the rail company afterwards and complain about it though. Surely your seats should not have been double booked.

No, don’t give up your seat. Don’t move. You have as much right as him... properly more because you have booked two seats.
Don’t let him intimidate you. Don’t let your son think that you have to give in to bullying loud men (or woman) just because they make a lot of rude noise.
He needs to see the guard. You are where you should be.

It's not your issue. I've had the same on a virgin train and tough luck to the other passenger! Provided you're actually in the correct seat i'd ignore him until he gets the picture... I would also complain to the train operating company as it's ruining your journey and hopefully they will do something retrospectively.

No I wouldn’t move. Just ignore him.

I don’t think you should move, but I’m a total wuss who hates confrontation, so I’m not sure I’d be brave enough to stay put. Hopefully the ticket inspector will be along soon, and they can sort it.

I would also tell him that if he touches you, your belongings or is aggressive around your child again that you will call the BTP.

That is horrific behaviour- even if he's the one in the right about the seat!

Do double-check, but yes, he needs to find a guard (who will tell him to sit somewhere else).

Phone the train station/company and ask them to communicate with the guard on the train as you don’t feel comfortable leaving your son to find them when someone is standing next to you being aggressive.

Plus the knob would probably sit in your seat if you left.

If he continues shout loudly for help- “HELP. we are being bullied by this man, can someone get the guard “
Scream if necessary.

One of you must be on the wrong train or carriage.

If you're sure you're on the right train and in the right carriage and in the right seats, do not move!

If there's been a mix up with the booking system, that isn't your fault and if the seats have been double booked, you are just as entitled to them as he is.

That he won't go and find a guard to sort it out implies that he wants to bully you out of your seat. Stay firm!

If you can call someone who works there it would be good, get them to check both your tickets just to be sure one of you isn't mistaken about which seat you should be in and if it's a double booking then you got their first he needs to be told to sit somewhere else. Sounds like a horrible bully

Tweet the train company and tell them what's happening.

We’re both in the right carriage, just booked for the same seat.

Good idea to tweet them. I don’t really want him to hear me on the phone and piss him off more. He’s currently sitting on the floor (despite several free seats in the carriage), sighing dramatically and glaring at me. Sad little man.

Good grief, what a silly little fool he's making of himself.

We’re both in the right carriage, just booked for the same seat.

Good idea to tweet them. I don’t really want him to hear me on the phone and piss him off more. He’s currently sitting on the floor (despite several free seats in the carriage), sighing dramatically and glaring at me. Sad little man.

What did he say when you showed him your ticket? What kind of a pig expects a someone and their child to move for them???

If you're in your reserved seat, do not move, and don't get drawn into a conversation with him. He will tire of standing eventually. BTW, the "stuck up" line infuriates me. The implication is that you see yourself as too good to engage with this person (correct, in this case) and him saying it is supposed to shame you into responding (and responding in a way he approves of, naturally). Idiot.