To not give up my seat?

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Currently in the middle of a 5 hour train journey with my 7yo. We got on at the first station and will be getting off 3 stops before final station. We are sat in our reserved seats, confirmation on the little display above our heads saying reserved from our starting and finishing stations.

At the last station 20 minutes ago a man got on and said ‘you’re in my seat’ and started to move my bags. I told him I wasn’t, grabbed my bag, showed him my ticket and the seat display. He showed me his ticket and he’s also reserved for the same seat. I told him he should go and find the guard, that there are plenty of free seats (although don’t know if they’re reserved).

He won’t go and find the guard, he wants his seat. He’s now standing right next to me (probably watching me type), having just had a loud phone call (which I’m pretty sure was imaginary as we went through a tunnel) about how he can’t prepare for the presentation as a stuck up bitch won’t move out of his seat. He’s huffing and sighing and I’m wondering whether he’ll stay standing over me for the next 2.5 hours.

I don’t want ds to hear this bloke being a prick but I really don’t see why I should move. Ds is currently plugged into his iPad so hasn’t noticed.

Never a guard when you need one, eh?

Is he going to the same destination as you, do you know? Could be a long journey! If it's that the train company double booked the seat it would be first come first served in that situation, surely.

He's a melodramatic twat. Don't move. Recruit the help of other passengers if you need to go to the loo.

We had this at the theatre, this guy was fuming that we were in his seats and we needed to move. We tried to show him our tickets but he was too angry, he went straight to a member of staff...who pointed out his tickets were for the next day! Definitely get a member of staff involved and don’t a member of staff to look into it.

Can you put your phone on silent and surreptitiously take a phone? For the train company... (and the amusement of MN )

*photo!

You are right, if you are certain you are in the right carriage and right seat.
Scream if he harasses you .

When the guard comes round, ask them to check your ticket and the other mans as there's an error as you can't both have booked the same seat. That way, if it is his reservation that's correct, then you won't feel like such a tit. If it's his that's wrong, then just smile politely at him and remind him that reverting to childish name calling and bully boy tactics isn't the way for a grown man t behave.

What a tool. If you don’t see the guard beforehand, go get the guard if he attempts to take the seat if you need the loo.
What a delightful colleague or boss he must be referring to the ‘stuck up bitch’ sat in his seat.
Maybe take a picture of him sat on the floor and upload for us all to laugh at him.

Hope a member of staff comes along soon OP, do not move for him

Tweet the company. Someone is on the wrong time or day train. It's happened to me before, he's unbelievably rude though.

Any update, OP?

As long as you are in the right, not him (I'm not casting aspersions, I just mean that the mix-up could mean either one of you is right), then YANBU and he's making a holy show of himself. What a tit. He'll have to move for the next round of the trolley, anyway.

Well one of you is wrong - either on the wrong pre-booked train, read the seat numbering wrong or the carriage. The adult thing, for BOTH of you, would be to look at both tickets together and work out who is supposed to be where.

I'm not sure what you mean by him trying to move your bags, are they on the seat he should be sitting on, have you taken an extra seat up?

Additionally the reservation on the screen is actually the stations you are coming from and going to, his is obviously the one that has gone tits up, his problem

One wonders if he would behaving this way if you were a man...

Says you can text them to report something. This is a crime as you and your dc feel threatened and intimidated.

Triple check your tickets and any email you have then do not move. Video any further interaction you have. Phone the train company.

What a Twonk he is!!

Plenty of trains don't have 'guards' by the way, and I rarely see a ticket inspector these days.

He’s currently sitting on the floor (despite several free seats in the carriage)
Is he Jeremy Corbyn?

On some trains I travel on there is a text number advertised to get in touch with the train guard - maybe on the wall near the doors?

if he starts at you again, record him on your phone.
How dare he bully you and call you a "stuck up bitch".
Would love his employers to see that.

I would tweet a photo of him to the train company. Say there's a confused person on board who thinks there are no seats available as they've double booked your seat. Suggest two burly guards come to deal with him as he's been verbally aggressive and grabbed your belongings. Mention you're with your child.

Stay put. If he continues complaining, pull the communication cord and tell the guard you are being harassed.

Update op!

Agree with others definitely record him and get a sneaky pic of him

It’s really not a case of “make sure you’re in the right”, OP. You were willing to compare tickets etc and resolve the problem reasonably, and instead this man responded in an inappropriate and aggressive manner. Proving him wrong about tickets etc is irrelevant, what is relevant is that his behaviour is not tolerated.