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To consider divorce over financial bullying

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TooFedUpWithThisBS · 24/06/2019 00:44

I'm basically feeling so fed up with my DH that I'm seriously considering divorce.

Since having our DD 6 years ago, I stayed at home as a SAHM and since then we had another DD who is nearly 4. I had a career and a permanent job in media before the kids, which together with saving every spare penny for deposit got us on the property ladder in London (more of that later). DH has been running his own business nearly ten years now, but at the time the first baby came along he was still very much only self employed and starting up.

The issue is, that my DH has been bullying me about finances ever since the babies. He lays it all on me..why don't you work, get a job, you're lazy, suggested I should get a job in Lidl to stack shelves etc... At the same time he is working very hard, doesn't want to deal with the kids at bedtime or bath time and doesn't do any of the other 'boring' parenting stuff like getting clothes ready, looking after them when ill etc..

Twice within this SAHM period I have gotten myself a part-time job to stop the constant criticism, and it has been really tough on the whole family and both times he eventually started asking me to quit the jobs as the money I was making wasn't worth the hassle for him. And by hassle I mean having to pick up the kids from school/nursery, cook, take a day off to look after a sick child and so on. I understand, he works hard and it's difficult for him to be on time with traffic and to deal with clients, staff and kids. Which is exactly why I stayed at home!

When our first child was a baby, I applied for a planning permission to extend our property. I did all the paperwork, found an architect and paid for all of it with my personal savings. Then when we finally got the permission to go ahead, we remortgaged our property and DH took out a personal loan to get the work done. He project managed this huge transformation of our property himself (as well as running his business simultaneously) whilst I took the kids and went to stay with my parents. He worked incredibly hard, and the value of our property increased considerably. He takes all the credit for it. Reminds me constantly how HE made the money, whist I was doing f* all. His exact words.

And it does't end there.. I recently started studying again to refresh my skills in preparation for getting back to work in my own field and maybe have a career again after such a long break and it's still no good. I apparently shouldn't be studying and messing around at Uni, but should be making money instead.

Who is BU here? I feel like I cannot win. I even had a home based on-line job for a while, but he convinced me to quit it, as it took all my evenings and the money once again was not worth it. (We are not wealthy but not scraping by either. We shop in Lidl, H&M, Sainsbury's Amazon..you get it. And he is not financially controlling. I can use his card whenever to buy whites needed)

He compares me to people choosing to live on benefits (as in I'm just like them and he's the provider), to other mums who have started business on their maternity leaves (I should have done the same) etc..etc.. HELP!!

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dottiedodah · 24/06/2019 07:59

I think he will never change TBH. Some men seem to want to have a wife at work,bringing in money.At the same time, still wants to have everything done for him!.As it stands should you divorce, you will be entitled to at least half of everything.Why not go to a solicitor and get advice .You could then show him and remind him this is 2019 not 1950!.Women have rights whether SAHMs or not.Do you think hes stressed?(Not an excuse for bullying however)!.Maybe he feels he needs the extra cash, but when it comes to it and you are at work doesnt like it!I think when children at School ,maybe look around or resume studies/training for a new job.You have a background in media ! surely you dont want to be shelf stacking!.I think he doesnt feel good about himself TBH ,and wants to project his inadequacies on to you!.This makes him feel better about his shortcomings and he doesnt seem to care if he hurts your feelings or not!.At W/E he feels better about himself by doing the Disney Dad routine but nithing else ever changes !.As far as using "his " card to buy whats needed he is making you feel its "his " money rather than a family income!

Shoxfordian · 24/06/2019 08:03

He sounds like a knob
I think you should definitely consider divorce

Daydreamer34 · 24/06/2019 08:07

This is such a common situation and it's so very sad. My own husband has been the same, until he realised that me returning to work would actually mean he would have to do things for the kids and that soon shut him up. He doesn't say it as often now but it is still thrown around in an argument.

People say there is so much more equality in today's world but in family life I don't think there is. Of course not every husband is like this, but the amount of posts just on mumsnet alone show how common it is.

Just close your ears to it, and try to enjoy the life you have.

MissBPotter · 24/06/2019 08:13

I would actually threaten divorce next time he brings this up and definitely continue studying. If he carrys on like this I would go through with the divorce, why does he think he can treat you like this?

Poetryinaction · 24/06/2019 08:20

It sounds like there has been a lot going on. Yoi have bought and extended a property, bought another property, had children, started studying. That is a huge financial burden. Did you make all these decisions together? Did you agree together that you would not return to your old job after maternity leave? Was that an option? Just trying to get a fuller picture.

JoJoSM2 · 24/06/2019 08:22

I don't want to get divorced. I wouldn't see a point of staying in such a relationship for another month, year or decade...

JoJoSM2 · 24/06/2019 08:22

Don't want to=Would want to

regmover · 24/06/2019 08:24

Make sure you have all the information you can on his finances, pensions etc. Just in case.
You need to sit down with some notes and talk to him. At the moment he might love his kids but he's not showing much love for you. And without love and respect he's going to lose you all sooner or later.
I agree with others, don't let him get away with the things he says. Pick him up on it.

TooFedUpWithThisBS · 24/06/2019 08:36

@hibbledibble My work didn't offer any flexibility to go back after maternity leave (very deadline focused and you work very late sometimes). Plus our DD needed surgery around the time I should have gone back, and someone needed to care for her. There was also a major bereavement in my family around that time, so it kind of seemed like too much mentally to go back. Also we started trying a second baby soon after, so I didn't think anyone would hire me really.

We are getting a lot of time away from each other at the moment. He is away a lot for work, and I think this is why I'm finding this so exhausting. I am literally doing everything for the children day and night as well as trying to study. Most of the time he is appreciative and says how well I'm doing, but then just one argument, and it goes back into this.

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Troels · 24/06/2019 08:36

You can't win. He likes the idea of you working and earning, but doesn't like the reality of having to man up and be a responsible parent.
He's an idiot.

Smelborp · 24/06/2019 08:41

He just sounds really cruel and self absorbed. I couldn’t stay in a marriage like that. It’s not a partnership and he seems to have no idea of the value you are adding to both your lives, which is huge! Being a parent is a stressful, encompassing job.

tenlittlecygnets · 24/06/2019 08:43

God. Doesn't he understand that when you have dc, they need looking after? So that's either one parent, both parents or childcare, or a combination? And all these options have cost implications?? What a tool he sounds.

Where does he expect you to magic up the time to get a job when he won't do his share of childcare?? He's being massively U.

MzHz · 24/06/2019 08:45

Go and speak to an lawyer. Find out what you’re likely to secure in a divorce, and check out what benefits if any you’d be entitled to. Then you know where you stand and will know what a future will look like with him out of your hair.

You’re doing this job of parenting all by yourself already, the added bonus is that if you’re divorced, the kids can stay with him on visitation and you’ll actually get a break once in a while.

TooFedUpWithThisBS · 24/06/2019 08:53

We own everything together half and half (apart from his business) and the second property is for us to use and is also being rented out through Airbnb. I organized it. Bought furniture with my own savings, listed it, manage it. Its not making a huge amount but enough to cover costs. I could go and live there and enjoy my life without him.

I have access to all his accounts and he's not financially secretive. Like in all marriages, this is not the whole picture. He really is a good dad and he has a lot of stress on his shoulders, which I do understand and worry for his health, but I guess I'm just getting to the point of where I just can't put up with it anymore. I can't wait to be working again..

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Rosemary46 · 24/06/2019 09:03

I think his business will be a marital asset as he had built it up during your marriage ( therefore with your labour ). Your solicitor will advise.

If he’s the great dad you say he is then he will be happy to adjust his working hours to accommodate caring for his own kids half the time. Just like most mums do.

MrsMozartMkII · 24/06/2019 09:09

God he's an arse.

He needs to real his neck in otherwise his life is going to get so much harder when you quite rightly bob off!

ComeAndDance · 24/06/2019 09:20

When are you finishing Uni?

TooFedUpWithThisBS · 24/06/2019 09:20

And the second property was bought because we are planning an escape from London and want to move there permanently at some point. It needs a lot of cosmetic work, but is otherwise a good and healthy house. He wants to reduce his input in the business and we could happily lead a simpler life in a smaller town.

I've been holding on to this dream and thinking he will stop being an asshole when we get there. Not sure if he will be any different TBH.

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TooFedUpWithThisBS · 24/06/2019 09:21

@ComeAndDance one more year

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user87382294757 · 24/06/2019 09:23

OP I have something similar- my DH is self employed and also says the same kind of stuff. He's a total workaholic and he also seems to want me to be one as well as look after the DC. So I understand. I am getting PIP atm for a long term health condition but even so he thinks that is not enough. I know financial stuff is a strain but it is horrible to be told you are lazy and to get a job, when you are trying the best you can. I am also feeling similar. Just to let you know there are others there too. I guess in your case there is more at stake with paying for these properties / mortgages, and he is taking it out on you. I mean fi you help with renting the one out that is helping financially is it not? It really annoys me also.

user87382294757 · 24/06/2019 09:24

Just read last update-well some financial pressure taken off might help. We are due to pay off the mortgage next year and I'm hoping the same also.

HowDidItEndUpLikeThis · 24/06/2019 09:26

I’d get a plan in place - finish your studies, get a job, then leave the fucker.

Life’s too short for that shit.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/06/2019 09:27

You are not his emotional punchbag.
Be blunt and factual with him. Take the emotion out of it. Detail what happened when you did get part time jobs. Ask him if he is prepared to be at home doing the “wife work” whilst you are at a job.
Point out that you have made a substantial financial contribution to the family. Get details of the cost of paid childcare, a cleaner, letting agent etc and remind him you have save loads of money.

Tell him he will be cooking his own meals and washing his own pants everyday if he carries on because you will be elsewhere.

MzHz · 24/06/2019 09:27

Ok, you have to play the long game then

Get the house sorted out, ready to move into/sell for a profit, finish your studies so that you have as much potential for freedom as poss, inform yourself on what your financial situation really is and and it could be and just work towards either moving to the house yourself or selling one/both and setting up somewhere post divorce.

You’re not without options, and anything you organise- given that nobody is at risk - needs to be done calmly and properly

You can do this and you are very nearly there already

MzHz · 24/06/2019 09:28

If he talks to you like shit, pull him up on it and tell him he’s not entitled to be rude to you or your family/children

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