To report parents for not registering the birth of a child

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Should I stay out of it or report? I'm concerned the child could fly under the radar if there are any concerns if they are not 'in the system'. Who would I report to?

Maybe Guardian columnists read Mumsnet?

Several PPs on this thread have posted the link to Andrew Pack's blog about this case over the last couple of days.

Perhaps someone at The Guardian picked up on this?

Surely hospital (or midwives if home birth) would have followed up?

Surely hospital (or midwives if home birth) would have followed up?

Only if they were actually involved.

And with the best will in the world they may have fallen through cracks even if they were involved.

Surely hospital (or midwives if home birth) would have followed up?

Not if they weren't involved.

people who do this usually move around frequently...do you know if this child was born in this country...how do you know this is really his mother...all very suspicious

I'm sure he'd need a tinfoil hat, extra strength, to play in the sandpit.

Midwives don’t get involved in whether a child is registered anyway. All the do is tell you how to do it and ask whether you have. Why would they follow it up? They’ve got enough midwifery to be getting on with haven’t they?

If the child definitely wasnt registered at birth - no birth cert ect - then I would report it. If it was a miscommunication and the child hasn't been registered as home educated, I would keep my nose out of it.

Surely hospital (or midwives if home birth) would have followed up?

Presumably they were not involved, but even if they were I don't think responsibility lies with the midwife to follow up birth registrations, that's would be quite crazy. They are hard pushed about looking after mums and babies.

@SerendipityJane I've read all your comments on this thread and I think you're awesome

Report this immediately to social services op and call the police non Emergsncy line.

The only child I know of where the parents had not registered was a child that was bred for s paedophile. It was an anonymous tip of on the registration that ultimately uncovered something more horrific than can be detailed here.

Report it and don't wait.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/23/man-refused-to-register-sons-birth-high-court

Just come across this: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jun/23/man-refused-to-register-sons-birth-high-court?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

Seems like there are more of these parents than just the ones you know OP

Sorry cross post 🙈

I feel like the judge and article should state more explicitly that the man is wrong.

I feel like the judge and article should state more explicitly that the man is wrong.

Why ? What part of "the law" needs explaining when you have been found guilty of breaking it ?

For whose benefit ? The numbnuts in the case will go to his grave wittering on about some sort of conspiracy and how everyone was out to get him. His fellow numbnutters would read (more likely "hear about") the judgement and make their own minds up. And in the meantime the 99.9999% remaining would never have imagined not to register a childs birth anyway.

As I said, these people need to be called out, ridiculed, ignored wherever and whenever possible, ideally kept away from any activities where they can hurt anyone (including in this case; being a parent) and hopefully kept to a minimum.

Report
Absolutely nothing to lose.

And potentially a LOT to gain by way of giving social services the heads up re this family

I would report it, I think. The parents may be doing what they think is right, but without thinking about the problems they may be storing up for their child later. The child has rights, too, including the right to an education, which can only be verified if they are known to the local authority as a locally resident home-educated child. You can report it to your local social services with the explanation that you have no reason to believe the child is being mistreated in any way but are concerned. I think they would probably go and see the parents and talk to them about the child's future status if they, for example, ever want to get a passport. I expect they would try to get compliance and not do anything drastic if the child is well cared for.

It's illegal. Please anonymously report. Red flag.

Personally I think you should keep out of it, if the child’s not being abused in anyway then don’t say anything. There has just been a similar case and that child is now in a foster placement. Your report could end with A happy loved child removed from the home because they have different views.

unless you have a valid concern regarding the parenting and you haven't stated any then its not your business to interfere just for interfering sake is it, why don't you find something more positive to do with your time.

You may have got your wires crossed. The law is that a child not registered with a school or the education department EVER can be home schooled without any supervision from the local authority. Children that have ever been registered with a school who later become home educated are supervised to some degree. Perhaps they meant they had never registered for a school place?

I would as it will restrict thechd later in life. No NHS number, no means to get a passport, no id for education or jobs. It's not just about avoiding jabs or home schooling (which are parents choices but a child could address in adulthood if they want to) it's about restricting a child from participating in society as an adult and their parents don't have the right to prevent them from doing that despite their own beliefs.

So the child doesn’t exist then. So never been to the doctor, so never been immunised, never been to the dentist and will never be able to open a bank account, travel abroad as no passport, no qualifications or be able to get a job as no NI number either.

I think they’re winding you up OP

Personally I think you should keep out of it, if the child’s not being abused in anyway then don’t say anything. There has just been a similar case and that child is now in a foster placement. Your report could end with A happy loved child removed from the home because they have different views.

The child will have many many problems coming through their adult life because of this, so report it