To report parents for not registering the birth of a child

[Anon6356237]

Should I stay out of it or report? I'm concerned the child could fly under the radar if there are any concerns if they are not 'in the system'. Who would I report to?

House shared with a girl who had similar beliefs that registering her child would result in the "government owning" her child, however she gave the child over to the paternal GPs when he was a few weeks old and he was registered by them. She had a friend who had 3 kids, none of whom she registered and homeschooled them, she was also a very vocal antivaxxer last time I had any contact with her, she was sure that registering their births was some great disservice to them. Refused to take them to see a doctor and performed holistic home remedies, luckily her unassisted home births came with no complications. They both really turned their noses up at my hospital birth and immediate registration of my child! Nice enough people just a bit misinformed I think.
I do wonder if that ever caught up with her, too.
I think about all the things I've needed to provide a birth cert for. Uni, ID, passport, working, housing...
It isn't likely that the first thing SS would do is to immediately move to remove the child from the care. There are so many steps before that, so there would have to be more wrong than a lack of birth registry to remove the child from the family.

its not your business to interfere just for interfering sake is it

Sigh. I'm assuming you've not read the thread because there are myriad reasons why this would not be 'interfering for intefering's sake'.

Seriously, your comment is pathetic.

Personally I think you should keep out of it, if the child’s not being abused in anyway then don’t say anything.

But the law is being broken.

Or does the end justify the means ?

unless you have a valid concern regarding the parenting and you haven't stated any then its not your business to interfere just for interfering sake is it, why don't you find something more positive to do with your time.

See above.

I'll be honest and say that anyone who feels this is all OK, and the OP best not get involved should not be upset if their motives are questioned and/or assumed to be a tad unsavoury. I'm sure they aren't, but given it's the law ..

(assumes position of a poster awaiting a banhammer )

There was something in the news recently about a couple who hadn’t registered their child, who was only a few months old. The father didn’t want the state to own the child. Judge ruled that a team take over with registering the child who had been put into care until the fitness to parent the child themselves was reviewed.

Sorry, cross post, have reported mine

I'm always astounded by people who confuse reporting something for being judge and jury. Professionals are there to decide if there is a problem, not us/you. Flag it. If they are looking after their children properly they will be supported but encouraged to enable their entry to society at some point. If they are harming their children they will get help. You aren't deciding what happens, you are flagging something that could be the abuse of a child.

PS @Cocoloco2019 you are clearly cracker-bonkers!

@Hortuslover it’s worth noting that the parents also got a custodial prison sentence for their behaviour in court so I suspect there may indeed be grounds to assess their fitness as parents.

Definitely report I worked in paediatrics and you have to remember the child is at a parents mercy hence why laws are in place to protect them they are not able to register themselves as they are a child, the parent does not own them. I am not saying this will happen but this leaves the way open for a child to be sold, trafficked, abused etc as they are not on the radar. In my experience you can never tell who will and will not use a child to their own ends. The child is entitled to be protected when needed that is why the system exists. A child is not a possession.

Call your local safeguarding board or multi agency referal unit.
They will listen and advise you.

The potential for this child to have a very difficult adulthood is huge.

They will find it impossible to access healthcare, attend school, sit exams, get vaccinations, vote, work (legally), drive, get married, travel abroad etc without going through an exhaustive legal and financial process.

I would report without hesitation.

Mind your own business woman.

I think they have stated their child isn't registered and you have assumed no birth certificate. It is more likely and far more common for them to have meant not registered with the LEA for school purposes, which is an entirely different thing and currently perfectly legal.

Before you go reporting to anyone, I suggest you clarify the situation.

All very well and good to say it’s taking away their parental choice if the kid grows up and can’t get a job etc.
I’d report it. It’s illegal not to register the birth of a child. It’s a huge red flag and needs to be looked into.

I think you should report it. Children need protection, they are not anyone’s property. Also, considering what has happened to the Windrush generation it is not a great idea not having documents.

I’d report it for the child’s sake. How will they exist as an adult with no ID at all?

Why? What part of "the law" needs explaining when you have been found guilty of breaking it?

I think there will be people read it who either think the common law thing is true or haven't heard of it before and are curious. Someone who believes in the theory might use the fact it wasn't refuted by the judge as proof. Generally, 'it's the law' isn't enough to persuade such people. If the judge, a legal expert, had said openly, 'No, you're wrong, everyone is bound by the laws of this country whether registered or not,' it may have helped convince some people.

I have a relative who got pregnant, didn't see a doctor, had a home birth, didn't register the birth and had no intention of doing so. She is schizophrenic and a neighbour contacted social services about her general odd behaviour. The baby was put into care and has now been adopted. Some people have mental illnesses and can't cope with life.

Absolutely report it. Parents do not own children, they are caretakers. When those children are adults, they are entitled to be citizens, not stateless people.

You are clearly confused. They mean the child isn’t registered with the local authority as being home schooled. There is nothing illegal or problematic about this - other than people interfering!! Leave them be!

unless you have a valid concern regarding the parenting and you haven't stated any then its not your business to interfere just for interfering sake is it, why don't you find something more positive to do with your time...

I would say preventing a child growing up with no access to health care, dentistry, a birth certificate , the ability to drive or travel .. let alone being in vaccinated to disease that disabled and kills is an incredibly positive way to spend ones time.

God I hate the 'not my business brigade' the sort of people who turn the tv up when they hear DV..

@Dragonbait how do you know that's the case?

I agree @Dragonbait that that is the most likely scenario.

The father didn’t want the state to own the child. Judge ruled that a team take over with registering the child who had been put into care until the fitness to parent the child themselves was reviewed.

Making it a self-fulfilling prophecy...

Report it to a health worker such as a child heath visitor or to the register dept of the council. It might all be perfectly innocent or it could be an attempt to sell a child or to enter into an illegal adoption. Better to report than say nothing do it anonymously