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Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

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Totur · 21/06/2019 19:55

Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

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Peregrina · 21/06/2019 22:31

The Brexiteers love him but he isn’t even a proper Brexiteer. He wrote two columns, one making a case for leaving the EU and one for staying and then decided at the last minute which one to publish, based on which stance would benefit himself the most.

And when Brexit goes tits up for Johnson, as it's expected to, the True Believer Brexiteers will cry that he was a Remainer all along.

Totur · 21/06/2019 22:31

Do you have any idea how much damages the Guardian could be sued for if this wasn't true? Defamation of character? Damaging a future PM's chances?
This is not something they would have done without solid proof.
You're talking being sued for millions.
Probably why nobody else touched it.

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chipsnmayo · 21/06/2019 22:32

Why don't people like Jeremy Hunt?

Well he fucked the NHS.

But at least he still maintains professionalism, doesn't act with the same arrogance that BJ does, and he seems a lot more competent at his job and seems to pay more attention.

So yeah he is preferable to BJ, but I would sill not be happy if Jeremy Hunt did become PM.

TanMateix · 21/06/2019 22:32

What Patroclus said with Bells on

KennDodd · 21/06/2019 22:33

And probably why it's taken several days to come out.

Isatis · 21/06/2019 22:33

So mumsnet members never have shouting matches in their own homes. What an angelic lot you are''

I suspect there aren't many people on this thread who have had shouting matches so serious that our neighbours have been sufficiently alarmed to call the police.

Cinammoncake · 21/06/2019 22:33

Makes you quite nostalgic for the days when a bit of extra-marital in a Chelsea shirt with an AMW, or a baby with your frumpy secretary constituted a proper scandal. Those guys were rank amateurs compared to what we have now, and say what you like, there was never violence.

Indeed!

PinguDance · 21/06/2019 22:33

I think instead of saying ‘ioooh how convenient someone recorders it’ could we not say ‘how fucking stupid do you have to be to get into a blazing, overhearable row in the run up to a leadership election’.

Dongdingdong · 21/06/2019 22:34

Do you have any idea how much damages the Guardian could be sued for if this wasn't true? Defamation of character? Damaging a future PM's chances?

But the Guardian haven’t said that it was DV. They’ve simply referred to it as a “loud altercation”. It’s only people on this thread who are saying it was DV. No one is denying the argument happened - what I’m saying is that there’s no evidence at this point that it was DV.

GrouchoMrx · 21/06/2019 22:35

TFBundy Fri 21-Jun-19 22:22:22
Citation needed.

Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?
Totur · 21/06/2019 22:36

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, argues like a duck, throws plates like a duck - it's ducking dv.

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Justbreathing · 21/06/2019 22:36

According The the DM comments lefties will do anything to stop this incarnation of Churchill doing what is needed for this country and leaving the EU

Butterymuffin · 21/06/2019 22:36

The Guardian's lawyers will have told them exactly what they can say without being sued.

Peregrina · 21/06/2019 22:36

So mumsnet members never have shouting matches in their own homes. What an angelic lot you are''

I don't think there can be all that many on MN who aspire to be the next PM, so need to think about how the country sees them. This is of course, if it isn't a put up job by the man himself.

Cinammoncake · 21/06/2019 22:37

dongdingdong

screaming, smashing things .. that is DV

KennDodd · 21/06/2019 22:38

So mumsnet members never have shouting matches in their own homes

No, never. My husband has never shouted at me and I have never shouted at him. Never smashed thinking in an argument and never had to shout at him to 'get off me'.

Totur · 21/06/2019 22:38

The loud altercation included:

Get out
Get off my laptop
Get off me
Plates crashing
Banging and banging

From the future PM with his new girlfriend...........

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Dongdingdong · 21/06/2019 22:39

I don't think there can be all that many on MN who aspire to be the next PM, so need to think about how the country sees them.

So you’re saying this sort of behaviour is fine unless you need to worry about how the country perceives you? Surely you’re basically just then saying it’s a matter of voter perception rather than the actual incident itself that’s the issue.

Justbreathing · 21/06/2019 22:39

I’ve had shouting matches at home. Proper belters.
No one has ever called the MFP on us though!

I would think to get to that point it has to be fucking serious.

Or it’s the liberal elite communist north Londoners sitting by the wall on 12 hour shifts trying to find any reason to bad mouth bojo because they’re leftie evil cunts

Dongdingdong · 21/06/2019 22:40

My husband has never shouted at me and I have never shouted at him

That’s lovely, but I’m sure loads of people in happy marriages DO have shouting matches with their partners from time to time.

justasking111 · 21/06/2019 22:41

@dongdingdong screaming, smashing things .. that is DV

Against what? The plates, china, whatever? Give me a break Grin

Dongdingdong · 21/06/2019 22:42

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Totur · 21/06/2019 22:42

@justasking111 If a day in the life for you includes objects being thrown around the house, I'm sorry to hear that.

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PopGoesTheWeaz · 21/06/2019 22:43

Another one who has never had the police called, not even ever thrown anything in an argument. And I also am not standing for the highest office in the land

TFBundy · 21/06/2019 22:44

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