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Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

835 replies

Totur · 21/06/2019 19:55

Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 23/06/2019 23:22

Genevieva I think it is more credible because Max Hastings knows Boris well, knows British politics well and doesn’t have an obvious political agenda.

I believe we should judge Boris on what we know he has done or failed to do and for me the Nanzanin Zaghari- Radcliffe blunder was utterly unforgivable.

DioneTheDiabolist · 23/06/2019 23:28

However it smacks of political point scoring.

Surely it would smack of political point scoring to some, no matter who the politician was. So what's the answer? That no one calls the police if they suspect an MP on the premises?

HelenaDove · 23/06/2019 23:44

Was round at my parents on Saturday night and they also thought it was just a tiff a domestic and that every couple argues

As my niece was also sat there i had to resist the urge to remind them that they were humming a completely different tune when DB (DN"s dad) and his ex had the same arguments and fights including smashing and throwing things. Back THEN they couldnt stop saying how ABnormal this kind of thing is.

There is a hell of a lot of hypocrisy going on.

HelenaDove · 23/06/2019 23:47

Ah @Zipee Personal responsibility is only for the plebs dontcha know!

HelenaDove · 24/06/2019 00:04

twitter.com/msloobylou/status/1142917584154763264

Genevieva · 24/06/2019 00:21

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude I agree with you completely.

1forAll74 · 24/06/2019 01:31

I don't think that the Boris incident will dent his popularity,, it's just that it's now given the anti Boris people,something to have a go at. and of course all the crap media too. I dare bet there are scores of high profile people,who have such incidents behind closed doors,but you never get to hear about them.

AngeloMysterioso · 24/06/2019 01:38

Boris is a first class twat from an ultra privileged background and virtually no understanding of ordinary people. So yes, he will almost certainly become the next PM.

This is what it comes down to. He’d have to do something seriously, unforgivably awful for it to make any difference now. The kind of people who vote for him are the kind of people who think this sort of thing is nothing at all.

Allhailthesun · 24/06/2019 05:57

Most of the arguing appears to be his girlfriends voice .I am minimising but only because I know several friends who had perfectly normal long term relationships only to have them end and start much more volatile new relationships. It is my experience that this is not an uncommon phenomenon after leaving a stable, long term marriage.

That was a very interesting article linked earlier. I totally agree that Boris will make a shite PM because he wants “ the job” rather than having a plan for the country. The fact he bottled being PM after Cameron did it for me.

Teacher22 · 24/06/2019 06:30

This story is being given air time now as there will be no point in trying to discredit BJ if or when he he is elected leader of the CP. One half of the political spectrum likes to have a scapegoat. If their cat died it would be the fault of Margaret Thatcher or Brexit.

To be honest, I think the popularity of BJ is because he is seen as an embodiment of the antithesis of all the abuse ordinary, decent people have suffered from those who depict them as bigots, racists, stupid, fascists, evil Tories, Kippers, Brexiteers ( the preceding three terms uttered in terms of loathing), nasty, uncaring and so on.

AlaskanOilBaron · 24/06/2019 06:43

I believe we should judge Boris on what we know he has done or failed to do and for me the Nanzanin Zaghari- Radcliffe blunder was utterly unforgivable.

Yes, this is the problem.

BertrandRussell · 24/06/2019 07:00

And meanwhile his links with Steve Bannon pass virtually unnoticed.

BogglesGoggles · 24/06/2019 07:03

Well at this point I couldn’t give a flying fuck of our next PM is a murder so long as they’re competent. Good like finding competence in the story party though.

BertrandRussell · 24/06/2019 07:09

I don’t think competent people go into politics any more.

FancyRibbon · 24/06/2019 07:30

Look even if we suspected that the whole rest of the cabinet were behaving like this- which obviously we don’t and they definitely aren’t -but anyway- we have at the very least strong evidence of personal volatility and shiftiness right here, in this case of Boris Johnson, on top of all the other political failures in Johnson’s career. It’s not an argument to say we don’t know what others are up to, or he’s the probably best of a bad bunch.

Johnson’s long term poor character has been shown in his caricaturing racist or sexist views in his writing, his decades of sexual incontinence and his shameful treatment of his children and their mothers (especially if it is true that he has not acknowledged a child) not to mention all the years of lying that will have gone into covering that up, evading the security detail which is dangerous to national interests and now while he is still married to his wife- having the type of screaming rows with a woman only five years older than his own daughter, that get the police called to the scene. That’s what we want in Number 10?

It’s not ok to ignore it, minimise it, excuse it. We expect and need so much more from public figures and leaders. He has already shown abundant evidence of the wrong qualities for someone we’d need to trust to lead our country and we desperately need decent grownups in charge. He should be sacked or resign and have his candidacy for party leadership withdrawn.

Zipee · 24/06/2019 07:42

ah so Boris is because leavers got abuse ? You know I've seen more leave voters complain that they are called racist etc than I have actually seen them called it.

Viciousrooster · 24/06/2019 07:51

I believe we should judge Boris on what we know he has done or failed to do and for me the Nanzanin Zaghari- Radcliffe blunder was utterly unforgivable

Classic. All Boris's fault. Not a word of censure for an Iranian regime that imprisons and tortures journalists as a matter of habit, and which is content to use Zaghari-Ratcliffe as a pawn in a wider argument over a failed arms deal. I mean why blame her actual jailers when it's so much more convenient to blame a Tory? Pathetic.

He was/is a fool, but nothing Johnson said made any difference. They were always going to imprison her.

Zipee · 24/06/2019 07:59

Except they extended her sentence because of what Boris said! You know, whilst he was in thr 3rd most important position in government.

It wasnt foolish it was downright negligent, showed a huge lack of judgement.

But excuse away.

How do you feel about his links with an antisemitc white supremacist?

BertrandRussell · 24/06/2019 08:01

Classic. All Boris's fault.

Oh don’t be silly. Nobody thinks it’s all Johnson’s fault. But it is reasonable to expect the Foreign Secretary to have enough of a grasp of his brief not to say anything which shows a) that he doesn’t understand the situation and b) is likely to make things worse not better.

GoFiguire · 24/06/2019 08:08

I do.

Walkaround · 24/06/2019 08:09

Viciousrooster - and if you were the imprisoned person whose sentence was extended and whose treatment worsened as a direct result of Boris Johnson's comments, would you still be saying the same thing, or are you just a stupid fucker who isn't bothered by collateral damage? Because I would certainly be blaming him for having my sentence extended! He knows what the Iranian regime is like, yet he still opened his stupid fat mouth and said she trained Iranian journalists - when she didn't.

Butterymuffin · 24/06/2019 08:32

Johnson made her situation worse. The Iranian authorities quoted his ill-thought out remarks in their statement about the increased sentence. That's on him.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 24/06/2019 08:42

Vicious Rooster
We all know that the Iranian regime is like. That is why it was critical that the Foreign Secretary did not say or do anything that weakened her already vulnerable position. So directly contradicting her defence and giving credence to the trumped up accusations against her was a spectacularly incompetent lack of statesmanship.

Butterymuffin · 24/06/2019 08:46

It's surely a bit fucking basic as a requirement of the Foreign Secretary than you don't get British citizens who are in prison abroad put in prison for longer. That's a quite spectacular level of 'bad at your job'.

Peregrina · 24/06/2019 08:49

How do you feel about his links with an antisemitc white supremacist?

He would have to change his name to Corbyn for some of the die hard Johnson supporters to even begin to get upset. Otherwise, more excuses will follow.