Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

[Totur]

Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

Well I never thought I would see the day when I said that the two who should have been running against each other were Hunt and Gove. One who no-one in the NHS would vote for and the other who no-one in education would vote for. And Gove is seen as having a temperament problem? What on earth went on with three spoiled papers amongst those who are meant to be running the country?

Little wonder they have been keeping him low profile. What a choice for the British public, JC or Boris. Both Labour and Conservative voters I know have said they are partyless.

If this is correct, surely the conservatives must be in panic mode.

Anyone remember Alan Clarke Tory MP? Vile man with foul views who treated his wife disgracefully and was an all round rotter. Left politics after a scandal but returned and stood for election in Kensington & Chelsea, a new constituency for him. Given that his scurrilous behaviour was public knowledge, I naively thought he'd be rejected. As if. He was welcomed with open arms. As Boris will be. Heaven help us.

The neighbour recorded the sounds and probably the details of vehicles etc.
I imagine Boris tried to shut the Police up. He was Mayor of London previously so would know the right people.
To me it reads as couple having a heated argument , yelling and throwing things. I think it’s projection to assume Boris was beating he up or threatening her. It’s her flat, she was angry with him and screaming at him to leave. Whatever way you look at it, they aren’t t ideal candidates for No 10. He’s only been living with her a year or so, she is much younger. She’s probably had enough of him . The argument was supposedly about him spilling wine on her sofa. She accused him of being spoilt and uncaring.

I hope this makes the Tory membership think twice about his suitability . We have Trump as leader of the ‘free world’ and now this buffoon in the running to be PM. Beam me up Scottie!

I don’t think this will make any difference to Boris becoming our next PM.
If the woman concerned presses charges for assault then different, but she hasn’t, & as far as I’m aware the police are treating it as a non issue.

This is why the media will now do a huge spin on whatever happened. This is boris with his bestie. Rupert murdoch. This was 2012. I’ve got friends who know BJ and I’ve seen photos of BJ and RM together from way back. When your bestie controls the media you can do what you want because your mate will spin it all for you. I’m betting the story will now be the woman was drunk and crazy. Watch as she now gets destroyed.

Missing the point spectacularly. The man can’t behave for five minutes, even when the job he’s wanted all his life is at stake.

Oh and from what I know about this man, you can bet that argument was about more than spilling wine on a sofa

longwayoff makes a very good point. Regardless of what happened, people like this survive and thrive in politics. Very sad state of affairs.

I only saw this today on the news feed
The report that the neighbour was quoted as the woman shouting "get off me" "get out of my flat" plus the ridiculous age gap 55 vs 31,

he comes across as dirty pervy bugger, who uses the bumbling scolded naughty boy act too bloody often.

No Ta

People love a Bon vivant bounder type.

They have a baby! Or have I got that wrong?

Feel sorry for his partner but surely she knew his history.
Of course she was probably dazzled by his so called personality. Then blinded by the light surrounding him that she became, like so many of the Tory Party, blinded and subjected to the mantra’s of “he is sooooo clever, he has such personality, he is such fun etc”

@Toturno! They don’t. He has a lot of em. Bit not with this one... yet

Well I think it's headline news at least.
I can't imagine it was just a woman screaming at him or nobody would have got involved.
Again I'll reiterate that the Guardian must be 100% sure of their evidence or they wouldn't have ran with the story.
As for her not making a statement? PMSL. Statistically, it takes 8 (some sources say 32) incidents before a woman acts (leaves).

I would be willing to bet this wasn't the first time the neighbours overheard this.

Your home is supposed to be your safe haven. If he goes home and argues with his girlfriend ('argue' lol), then what state is he in every morning?

I think there's more of this story to break actually.

One of those stories where if you dislike Boris, it just confirms your opinion, and if you do like him you'll just make lots excuses about not knowing the facts or surmise that's it blown out of proportion. I doubt it's changed anyone's minds out there, unfortunately.

Stones and glass houses.

I've had some loud noisy shouty rows with my dh that if transcribed would make us both sound awful,and him a dv abuser even though he's not ('get off me' has been said when he has tried to give me a cuddle when I'm riled and I've told him to get out of our house several times).

I think most of us if we were honest can think of a few rows we've had where if our neighbours had taped them would have been highly embarrassing.

All this thread is is confirmation bias. Alot of people on MN hate Boris so believe this is more evidence that he's a rotter and this just gives more evidence to support that view.

Again I'll reiterate that the Guardian must be 100% sure of their evidence or they wouldn't have ran with the story.

For heaven’s sake Totur! The Guardian have the recording from the next door neighbour and that’s what they’ve written the story about. Nowhere in the Guardian story does it state that Boris has committed DV.

Not that keen on having as PM a man who gets so drunk he smashes plates, to be honest.

I presume you weren’t a fan of the last Labour prime minister either then. Or is throwing stuff when sober okay?

www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/2009/apr/24/gordon-brown-angry

All the pathetic scrabbling for a new leader to get us out of the EU before another election takes place will end up with the Tories' worst nightmare, I reckon - a damaged economy led by Jeremy Corbyn. Why people keep saying how clever Boris is, I don't know. What use is being good at Latin and Greek, playing games of political intrigue and fantasising about being King of the World? All he seems to do is bluster and blunder his way from one mess to another. He is totally unreliable and untrustworthy - a fantasist. I think his girlfriend is right - he is nothing but a spoilt little rich boy who cares for nothing. Still, Trump is similar. Men who have always been able to get what they want and who mistake this for ability rather than being in a position to be able to abuse their power.

@Dongdingdong - was that supposed to be some sort of “gotcha”?
No, I don’t care for people expressing anger through violence, whether it’s towards things or people. Regardless of political party. I don’t think Briwn was temperamentally suited to high office either. Sorry to disappoint...

Nowhere in the Guardian story does it state that Boris has committed DV.

Have I?

Dickens had a character called Mr. Bounderby I think - it was in a novel called Hard Times.
Boris reminds me of him.

Reportedly, the argument could be heard from outside, not just next door and it sounded like someone was being murdered......

Bad and all as Theresa May is, I can't imagine her causing such a commotion...