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Are we ok with our soon to be PM being involved in a domestic 'argument'?

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Totur · 21/06/2019 19:55

Enough to prompt a neighbour to call police?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

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Patroclus · 22/06/2019 00:26

I see we've adapted the regular 'you shout racist/sexist etc at anybody who doesnt agree with you' whine. No, I call something what it is. If you have problems with what you are (an apologist for DV in this case) maybe evaluate your morals.

Idontwanttotalk · 22/06/2019 00:26

"Aw. Clearly Boris is being abused by his new girlfriend. Poor man has nowhere to go."
No-one is saying that, OP. I am saying that you do not know who threw the plates. The neighbours don't know who threw the plates. The police don't know who threw the plates.

I hope you don't go on jury service in the future because you seem incapable of objectivity. You may be projecting because of your past experience but that isn't very helpful. You are really boring me now with your single-mindedness and total inability to consider any viewpoints except your own.

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Totur · 22/06/2019 00:31

Yes, because the Guardian holds a recording where it was clear Boris' girlfriend was assaulting him with plates....

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RubberTreePlant · 22/06/2019 00:31

If you didn't mean Right wing slime all over this thread. You lot will never, ever, ever let a incompetent posh boy in a position far above his ability or morals be criticised will you? especially if theres a woman to take the flak. to be insulting to posters @Patroclus , then it's your expression that needs work.

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Totur · 22/06/2019 00:34

Tonight, MPs said Mr Johnson may seek an injunction to suppress any attempt to release the recording.

I wonder why.........................

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DioneTheDiabolist · 22/06/2019 00:35

Big, powerful Male politician gets into a drunken altercation with his smaller, less important partner. The police deny it happened.

The "lawyers" on this thread minimise the seriousness of it and try to explain it away.

It would appear that there is systemic misogyny in all strata of our legal system.

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Totur · 22/06/2019 00:36

Earl McDermott, who lives nearby, told MailOnline: 'It was a proper tear up. Glasses being smashed, screaming and a lot of arguing.
'I was walking past Johnson's house and you could hear it coming from the top floor. I thought someone was being murdered.'

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pigsDOfly · 22/06/2019 00:36

Agree this thread is ridiculous. So many people on here seem to be in the know as to what occurred in his flat in South London. Surely they can't all live next door to Boris?

I loathe Boris Johnson and I fear for our future know that he's going to be our next PM. He's not a pleasant human being by any means.

However, being a total arse and having a screaming row with the woman he lives with doesn't automatically mean he was being violent towards her.

I'd hate to be tried for a crime in front of a jury of MNers. Obviously they'd take one look at the accused, purse their lips, shake their heads and declare the prisoner guilty before a word of evidence has been offered.

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Totur · 22/06/2019 00:37

They've said the frontrunner never wins..........

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Totur · 22/06/2019 00:39

*The row was recorded by a neighbour on a smartphone, who told the Guardian: 'There was a smashing sound of what sounded like plates. There was a couple of very loud screams that I'm certain were Carrie and she was shouting to ''get out'' a lot.

'She was saying, ''get out of my flat'' and he was saying no. And then there was silence after the screaming. My partner, who was in bed half asleep, had heard a loud bang and the house shook.'

That neighbour called the police and then shared the recording with the Guardian. *

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Notanidiot · 22/06/2019 00:39

@LizzieSiddal

So being married and having numerous affairs makes someone unfit to be a PM?

By that logic anyone that gets divorced or is a proven adulterer shouldn't be allowed to run for Parliament at all.

Better still lets sack all the ones that meet the criteria now as they are surely of low morals 🙄

HelenaDove · 22/06/2019 00:40

If the neighbour hadnt recorded it he/she would have been called a liar and/or a Corbynite trying to smear him.

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Totur · 22/06/2019 00:46

'This guy is going to be PM and all this stuff is going on in his private life - how chaotic is he? If he can't hold it together at his age, what the hell is going on?

'This will go on and on. It will damage him.'

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Woody68 · 22/06/2019 00:51

Hmmm don't believe a word of it. The timing is just all a bit too convenient
The Guardian claim t heard a record but who is to say it was even if these 2.Tge police seem pretty vague as to whether it was these 2

RubberTreePlant · 22/06/2019 00:52

@Totur if he's violent to women he WILL be revealed as such. That's largely in his partner's hands.

You can't badger the world into convicting him on this thread tonight.

The issue of whether he becomes PM or not is in the hands of the Tory membership.

So why are you railingat us?

jennymanara · 22/06/2019 00:53

I shouldn't be surprised at what people will explain way, but I am. This is simply the latest in a long line of incidents that shows Boris is totally unsuitable to be Prime Minister.

Breathlessness · 22/06/2019 00:58

‘The timing is just all a bit too convenient’

Yes it is. You don’t talk to a newspaper about it (quotes from the neighbour) unless it’s politically motivated. That doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. The police were called, a reference number was given and vehicles did attend.

RubberTreePlant · 22/06/2019 00:59

It's not about 'explaining away'. It's about whether there's enough of a smoking gun there to discredit him yet.

jennymanara · 22/06/2019 01:00

Yeah cause everything else points to him being such an honest upstanding chap?
I suspect he is a sociopath.

Breathlessness · 22/06/2019 01:02

Having the police doing a welfare check because you’re having a screaming row in your flat in the middle of a leadership campaign doesn’t reek of competence, regardless of who smashed the plates.

jennymanara · 22/06/2019 01:05

If I heard screams and plates smashing from my neighbours house and then it suddenly went quiet, I would ring the police. But I have never had to as this kind of behaviour is not normal.

RubberTreePlant · 22/06/2019 01:05

Yeah cause everything else points to him being such an honest upstanding chap?

Well, no the opposite.

He can't get through a week without having an affair or dropping huge, inappropriate clangers.

But our disapproval isn't going to sink him. Clearly.

jennymanara · 22/06/2019 01:06

Rubbertreeplant Sorry that was sarcasm.

RubberTreePlant · 22/06/2019 01:10

Yes,I spotted the sarcasm. But honestly, how is everyone expecting this works?

It's a leadership contest, not a GE, and there's nothing that amounts to a smoking gun (yet). Lovely though that would be.

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