To think people need to stop viewing Boris Johnson as a loveable buffoon?

[MoominMantra]

He's nasty and astute

He hangs around with horrible bigots who support eugenics, like Steve Bannon.

He cannot manage a day without having to publicly apologise for some dreadful remark he made.

He is even more likely to carry on heaping austerity on the sick and disabled than any other Tory leader.

When he was mayor he closed 10 fire stations in London.

He's dangerous and he doesn't give a fuck about anyone. I can't think of a worse proposition for PM.

cause if they aren't with the leavers, then they are against the leavers, and that means they are against the people.

Can we stop with this "will of the people" bullshit narrative? I voted Remain and I'm still a fucking person. The difference was 2%, we're not talking about a landslide here. An awful lot of the "people" are not leavers, so please remember that.

I do so wish the people who insist on seeing this as a binary, if Corbyn is bad that must make Johnson better thing were actually right. It would be great if one of the PM and the Leader of the Opposition were automatically fit to lead the country, if having a crap Labour leader meant the Tory would be competent. Sadly that's not the reality we live in.

Also, if you think Boris is really a Leaver you're very naive. He does whatever is best for him, that's all. If, heaven forbid, I were a Brexiter, I would not trust him to deliver it.

It’s telling that all the negative voices on this thread are ‘but Corbyn...’ ones. No attempt to say why Johnson isn’t vile. That’ll be because they can’t.

Gth around 60% of conservative voters voted remain. Tory MPs who are pro remain are not ‘against the people’. They are representing the majority view of the party. People elected them post referendum knowing their views, so presumably that’s what they wanted.
Talk of politicians standing against the people is dangerously close to ‘enemy of the people’ territory. That never goes well.

This too

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Corbyn has nothing whatsoever to do with this thread. The Labour Party is not in power right now.

If the only argument supporters of BoJo can come up with is Corbyn is an anti-Semite then that's completely dim if you ask me 🙄

The UK is screwed enough as it is. Anyone who seriously wants Boris In power is either rich enough (and selfish enough) for it to make no difference to them or.....?

From his former boss at the Daily Telegraph:
“He is not a man to believe in, to trust or respect, save as a superlative exhibitionist. He is bereft of judgment, loyalty and discretion. Only in the star-crazed, frivolous Britain of the 21st century could such a man have risen so high, and he is utterly unfit to go higher still.”

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/oct/10/boris-johnson-unfit-to-be-prime-minister

This isn't about Brexit either. If people just want him in so we leave by November then what about the future of the UK afterwards?

Quite @cardibach

It's also hilariously ironic given that, if Boris does become PM, he'll do so as leader of a party that lost their majority at the last GE, did poorly in subsequent elections and have a piss weak mandate to rule. He will also do so as a leader who the public haven't had chance to vote for.

He'd be a fucking idiot to kick out Tory Remainer MPs too. Given the current parliamentary arithmetic, he needs them to form a majority. Withdrawing the whip would be the best way to get Clarke, Bebb et al to back someone like Rory Stewart to form a coalition government.

I loathe Corbyn and until the Brexit debacle I had never voted any other way than Tory but I will never again support a party that gives us Johnson as PM (even temporarily)
His loveable Buffon persona is dangerous and if we don’t take him seriously we are risking a racist misogynistic idiot who has never achieved anything as Mayor or in any other public role.
By calling him “Boris” we make him sound like some affable, benevolent uncle and he’s nothing but

Yep, I don't think the Tories are going to get in next time. As a PP said, they already have a weak mandate. I'll be voting LidDem next time.

eremy Corbyn and his mob are fucking saints

Just because someone doesnt like Boris does not make them a Corbyn supporter

Lazy thinking

Well lazy...not sure what thinking is involved

Moonin I think that's it. The people that want him in probably do have an inkling that he's a dangerous man to have in power but they are so encompassed in wanting to leave the EU that they are willing to overlook it.

Although following the ‘against the people’ post there probably isn’t any point in engaging

Corbyn is far worse.

Oh for fucks sake

Le sigh.

🙄🙄🙄🙄

If he can betray his wife and children so devastatingly then God help us all. No fucking morals.

That was @Barnabyboy

I totally agree about his lack of morals.

Can we stop with this "will of the people" bullshit narrative? I voted Remain and I'm still a fucking person. The difference was 2%, we're not talking about a landslide here. An awful lot of the "people" are not leavers, so please remember that.

The difference was 4% not 2%

it was 52/48 because we thought it was a forlorn hope. Now we know it wasn't a forlorn hope.

There was a vote in parliament to remove no-deal Brexit that won by a single vote (and that vote included a criminal labour MP). So that was 300 to 299 approximately, or 0.002%. What about a re-run of that anti-democratic vote first.

That's partly why Labour failed to win the no-deal motion last week. Most of the Tories came home. There were 11 who didn't and they want kicking out. Thankfully there were 8 labour MPS who voted for the people, and against their party.

cause if they aren't with the leavers, then they are against the leavers, and that means they are against the people.

Who believes this shite at all anymore?

4% is not that much of a margin either.

This is not about Brexit though it's about the possibly that a fascist cuntish sociopath is going to ride roughshod over every decent thing we have (left) in the UK by becoming PM.

Well he's the best of the bunch and if you can make a go of the mayoral role you must have some decision making and people managing skills. No other MP of either party comes over as a great leader. As I said, the best of the bunch.
And anyone who gets us out of the present predicament deserves a million medals.