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To think people need to stop viewing Boris Johnson as a loveable buffoon?

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MoominMantra · 14/06/2019 09:57

He's nasty and astute

He hangs around with horrible bigots who support eugenics, like Steve Bannon.

He cannot manage a day without having to publicly apologise for some dreadful remark he made.

He is even more likely to carry on heaping austerity on the sick and disabled than any other Tory leader.

When he was mayor he closed 10 fire stations in London.

He's dangerous and he doesn't give a fuck about anyone. I can't think of a worse proposition for PM.

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Zipee · 16/06/2019 23:13

Can you show any evidence that it wasn't?

The plans were drawn up and annpunced.in feb 2008 and implemented by TFL. Boris administration neither commissioned it nor managed the implementation. About two years seems utterly accurste from final planning to launch of a pretty large project like that.

Boris can claim it was his, but your claim that Livingstone had little to do with it is already proven incorrect.

noodlezoodle · 17/06/2019 02:01

@ADarkandStormyKnight hadn't even thought of that!

ContinuityError · 17/06/2019 08:39

Boris promised to bring the bikes in at no cost to the tax payer in his 2008 manifesto.

But the final TfL set up costs seem to be in the order of £90 million - £140 million?

Zipee · 17/06/2019 08:52

The bikes were already proposed, commissioned and planned by the time the Mayoral election took place.

I think the total cost appears to have run to nearly 200 million, but may be wrong.

StormTreader · 17/06/2019 10:09

When did this narrative come in that saying "this person has done things which mean they should never be in official government office" means that other people have to rush in to say "well, this other person is no saint!"
Can't we talk about the facts of what Boris has said and done without then also having to discuss what other politicians may have done or not done?

If one child has hit another one, does it matter if the child that was hit is a saint or not? This idea that if they're not a saint then "they're all equally bad" is wrong and dangerous and is giving people free passes for actions that absolutely should not be waved away.

StoneofDestiny · 17/06/2019 16:26

He is a serial philanderer, a proven liar and fraudster, an untrustworthy employee, a political fool with his foot in the mouth comments and an ass belittling our intelligence by promoting himself as ‘reformed’ (new haircut and shut mouth).
Nobody outside London gives a fig about Boris Bikes - but most sane people will be scared shitless if he is the PM!

HelenaDove · 21/06/2019 19:40

www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/21/police-called-to-loud-altercation-at-boris-johnsons-home

Police were called to the home of Boris Johnson and his partner, Carrie Symonds, in the early hours of Friday morning after neighbours heard a loud altercation involving screaming, shouting and banging.

The argument could be heard outside the property where the potential future prime minister is living with Symonds, a former Conservative party head of press.

A neighbour told the Guardian they heard a woman screaming followed by “slamming and banging”. At one point Symonds could be heard telling Johnson to “get off me” and “get out of my flat”.

The neighbour said that after becoming concerned they knocked on the door but received no response. “I [was] hoping that someone would answer the door and say ‘We’re okay’. I knocked three times and no one came to the door.”

The neighbour decided to call 999. Two police cars and a van arrived within minutes, shortly after midnight, but left after receiving reassurances from both the individuals in the flat that they were safe.

When contacted by the Guardian on Friday, police initially said they had no record of a domestic incident at the address. But when given the case number and reference number, as well as identification markings of the vehicles that were called out, police issued a statement saying: “At 00:24hrs on Friday, 21 June, police responded to a call from a local resident in [south London]. The caller was concerned for the welfare of a female neighbour.

“Police attended and spoke to all occupants of the address, who were all safe and well. There were no offences or concerns apparent to the officers and there was no cause for police action.”

Johnson and Symonds have increasingly appeared together at public events in recent weeks. The former mayor of London topped Thursday’s ballot of Conservative MPs in the party leadership contest and is now the favourite against Jeremy Hunt to be the next prime minister.
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The neighbour said they recorded the altercation from inside their flat out of concern for Symonds. On the recording, heard by the Guardian, Johnson can be heard refusing to leave the flat and telling Symonds to “get off my fucking laptop” before there is a loud crashing noise.

Symonds is heard saying Johnson had ruined a sofa with red wine: “You just don’t care for anything because you’re spoilt. You have no care for money or anything.

The neighbour said: “There was a smashing sound of what sounded like plates. There was a couple of very loud screams that I’m certain were Carrie and she was shouting to ‘get out’ a lot. She was saying ‘get out of my flat’ and he was saying no. And then there was silence after the screaming. My partner, who was in bed half asleep, had heard a loud bang and the house shook.”

Johnson left his wife, Marina Wheeler, last year and began a relationship with Symonds, who has been credited with revitalising his appearance and approach to politics. She was part of his team when he publicly launched his campaign for the Tory leadership earlier this month.

In recent weeks the couple have been sharing a flat in a converted Victorian house. It has been reported that they intend to move into Downing Street together if he is elected leader.

Johnson’s office was contacted earlier on Friday for comment but had not responded by the time of publication."

womanaf · 21/06/2019 19:44

I just read that. God help us.

Marilynmansonsthermos · 21/06/2019 19:55

Great post op. Boris as pm is a chilling prospect. However I'm hoping that it signals, the beginning of the end of the conservatives being in power.

millymae · 21/06/2019 20:13

It almost beggars belief to me that the two candidates standing for PM are Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt.
Boris Johnson is quite simply a loose cannon that cannot be trusted to tell the truth about anything and the other is the person who calls himself a skilled negotiator yet when he was the Minister of State for Health the junior doctors took strike action for the first time in 40 years.

MoominMantra · 21/06/2019 20:57

@Marilynmansonsthermos every cloud has a silver lining hopefully ...

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nauticant · 21/06/2019 21:52

Eddie Mair years ago.

ADarkandStormyKnight · 21/06/2019 23:49

I hope Carrie Symonds kicks him out now and never looks back.

Elkbach · 31/07/2019 17:52

This sums him up very well:
www.facebook.com/763996933693821/posts/boris-johnson-described-gay-people-as-bumboys-compared-equal-marriage-to-three-m/861584894204460/

I can't believe people actually voted for the toad to be our prime minister.

slashlover · 31/07/2019 18:21

Last Week Tonight exposed him on Sunday, I love that show though.

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