To think Jo Brand should be allowed to joke about anything and everything?

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I don't want to live in a world where we are all censored

I love JB, her humour is usually right up my street. But I was shocked to hear her say that; I heard it when first broadcast and I’m not surprised they have been complaints. If she now gets arrested and banged up, we’ll obviously that’s a complete overreaction. If she gets a visit from the police then yes, that’s a proportionate response to a potentially inflammatory definitely poorly judged comment.

Can you share one funny joke about paedophilia or genocide?

I can think of several that I find funny. But humour is entirely subjective. You can’t help what you find funny. I have a dark sense of humour and find Jimmy Carr hilarious.

You need to listen to the show. The whole point of Heresy is that people talk without limits and boundaries are pushed. Seriously, listen to the WHOLE show and then decide. Victoria Cohen has some wise words.

I really like Jo Brand and dislike Nigel Farage, but this joke is not funny at all. I am all for a bit of milkshake throwing though

So you don’t like hurty words, but you’re fine with physical assault.

Makes sense...

Unacceptable behaviour is indeed defined by social norms. But social unacceptability is not and should not be the standard for what is criminal.
Id say it’s not that hard to understand, but you’re not the only objective who struggles with this. The police are too, which is more worrying.

People should say whatever they want but that's not the world we live in. Based on the world we live in, yes she should be pulled up and possibly even charged, considering others have been charged for insighting violence for less.

TheAngryLlama

I think you are the one struggling. There is no objective way of saying what should be considered criminal and what should be considered social, other than what is signed into criminal law and what isn’t.

potentially inflammatory definitely poorly judged comment

I don’t like the comment, but people are responsible for their own actions. Saying something is ‘potentially inflammatory’ is a slippery slope to start down. If anyone took it upon themselves to act upon her words, that’s on them, not her.

She said throwing milkshakes over politicians she disagrees with was pathetic and they should throw battery acid instead

She also went on to say she wouldn't do it herself, she wasn't advocating it and that it was a fantasy of hers.
You ve also taken the remark out of context as it was said within a satirical program that aims to incite and offend, if you don't like it don't listen to it?

Once we start telling comedians what they can and can't joke about then we have entered a totalitarian state, what next? no jokes about our illustrious leaders?

When it comes to comedy, taste or lack of should be left to the audience to decide upon, once ratings drop, R4's Heresy will be shut down.

Can you share one funny joke about paedophilia or genocide? I am trying to envisage one being told on TV.
Book of Mormon? Don’t fuck the baby?

jasjas1973

Once we start telling comedians what they can and can't joke about then we have entered a totalitarian state, what next? no jokes about our illustrious leaders?

You are on a forum that deletes posts that breaks the rules.
You work in a job that will fire you if you say something that brings the company in to disrepute.
You live in a country that can fine or in prison you if you say something offensive and broadcast it.
You can't just make up stuff about someone and get away with it. (slander, liable etc.)
You can't incite violence or law breaking behaviour.

Why should comedians be able to do as they like?

When it comes to comedy, taste or lack of should be left to the audience to decide upon, once ratings drop, R4's Heresy will be shut down.

Yet people are complaining about the public's reaction, it goes wider than the shows audience.

I believe in free speech, therefore I unfortunately have to put up with Jo Brand's right to make such a nasty 'joke' and I also have to put up with stuff that people like Tommy Robinson spout (provided it's within the law). I do have the right to complain, just as their supporters have the right to call me a 'snowflake' or 'professionally offended'.

I can also reflect on the type of person who can find it in herself to even think about throwing acid over another human being, far less say it.

As to incitement: I think it's generally accepted that Henry II didn't actually mean anyone to kill Thomas a Becket. I don't think it's a speaker's fault if someone feels encouraged to act on what is said, but if we wish to live in a pleasant, safe and civilised society, it's worth bearing in mind before speaking that not everyone who hears what is said is balanced and reasonable.

Once we start telling comedians what they can and can't joke about then we have entered a totalitarian state, what next? no jokes about our illustrious leaders?

This is the ironic situation, it has highlighted a lot of hypocrisy with people who are the vocal left (which I'm not being demeaning to you, but have recognised your name), you (general you) put caveats in place as to what is a comedian. Whats funny is the same comedians who was supporting the Nazi Pug guy etc are also supporting Brand, this is nothing more than a shit storm where one side is trying to apply the same rules that the outrage crowd have used to silence and dictate what comedy is allowed.

That is the only reason why this has blown up, the left have laid the foundations, its bullshit culture war

she was very wrong and i havent liked her before either.

would she like if someone made a joke about her like that?

there should be a line with comedians, they cant say whatever they like.
do you remember what happened to jonathan ross and russel brand?

and that weird picture about harry's family?

acid attack is a scary thing, there cant be such jokes about that.

I love Jo brand although I didn't find this particularly funny I think it's a comedian's job to take risks like these. Lots of things she says will be offensive to various different groups of people. Don't go to a comedy show if you dont like being offended.

Hopefully the final arbiter of law is the jury.

would she like if someone made a joke about her like that?

Probably not, but why does that mean they can’t say it if they wish?

there should be a line with comedians, they cant say whatever they like

Why not? People can’t help what they find funny.

do you remember what happened to jonathan ross and russel brand?

I do, and I think they were dickheads who caused a family a lot of grief, but they’re allowed to be dickheads if they please. It’s not illegal to be a nasty piece of work.

dont go to a comedy show if you are offended, or dont watch or listen, switch if are not correct answers in my opinion.

switch of not switch if

acid attack is a scary thing, there cant be such jokes about that

In the politest possible way, who made you the arbiter of humour? And who are you to decide what jokes can and can’t be uttered? People joke about scary, nasty things all the time. It’s a coping mechanism of sorts. It makes us more able to cope with the terrifying aspects of life.

well they cant find jobs now because they were d.heads.