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AIBU to say that if you work in child protection you shouldn't post pictures of yourself wanking at work in fetish gear?

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ArcheryAnnie · 12/06/2019 23:47

People do all kinds of things in their private life, and - as long as it's all consensual, and involving adults, in private - that's absolutely fine with me. Even if it involves fetish stuff that I find deeply unsexy. It's your private time and your business.

But if you bring your fetish into work, that's really inappropriate. Involving other people in your kink without their consent is not OK.

If you bring your fetish into work and take time to entertain yourself in the loos with it, that's way, way beyond really inappropriate.

If you work in child protection campaigning, and bring your fetish into work, and take time to entertain yourself in the loos with it, and take a photo of yourself while doing it, and upload that photo onto the internet, then you probably need to consider whether a career in child protection is really for you.

(And if you are doing this while working on campaigns about abused and neglected children, you should not be surprised when people ask what made you so aroused.)

And dear NSPCC - who I used to have a direct debit to, and who used to be in my will - people objecting to this are not being homophobic or "bullying". Many of who are objecting to your staff member's actions are ourselves gay. We just seem to have a better grasp of safeguarding than you do.

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RedToothBrush · 19/06/2019 07:58

Huffpost canada
m.huffingtonpost.ca/amp/entry/pride-parade-kid-friendly_ca_5d013916e4b0dc17ef03287b/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvL2FsNVRvUnNPcVY_YW1wPTE&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAANvia81gJAe7Ak6rOK9LtXFrBJ2FAzxcs4pea3knGTTHAY4EEj7qHZQSe2bmzVt_-eKoYHcNzEsqC0NvO6MKiYXN2Cz9pM_DmrHmI9BEB3AEKjVgjJ1CxviVlu3-ZH5rzctF3Z7MR_5ArcJCfOKH_AHQgAt8MLgRi6QvixeoUY-R&__twitter_impression=true
Are Pride Parades Kid-Friendly? Parents Say Children Can Handle The Kink
A question about whether pride is 'sexualized' got a lot of people talking.

The quotes in this:

Plus, as queer parents, it’s one of their cultural festivals, added Bergman, who lives in Toronto with his husband and kids.

“It’s their right as queer spawn. And as a parent, I might want to take my kids to Pride, because they might be lesbian, gay, bi, trans, queer or two-spirit.”

AND

Bergman defended these elements and their right to exist at a kid-friendly event.

“First of all, nobody likes nakedness more than children,” Bergman said.

“On the list of things that I don’t want my children ever to be exposed to are: Compulsory heterosexuality, demonstrations of sexism, demonstrations of racism, demonstrations of ablism, violence. These are all way higher on the list than some homosexual’s tuchus.”

And

Putting on her sex therapist hat, Ren emphasized that Pride, from kink to nakedness, is an excellent opportunity for parents to do unbiased sex education. Bergman also pointed out that many children don’t even interpret most of what they’re seeing in a Pride parade as sexual, but rather as dress-up or fun.

SmileEachDay · 19/06/2019 12:24

Reanimated

Why are you determined to ignore the fact that the overwhelming majority of prostituted women are not doing it because they like it.

ONE woman being trafficked and repeatedly raped is too many for me, and it’s a fuck of a lot more than that.

Are you SO determined to stick to your narrative that you’ll accept the measurable, appalling damage done to women as a result of prostitution?

DuMondeB · 19/06/2019 12:57

If you don't want to take up sex work, don't take it up

Holy fuck. Are you really so uninformed you’ve never heard of grooming? Or coercion? Or trafficking? Or desperation through poverty or addiction?

youkiddingme · 19/06/2019 15:56

Brilliantly explained FlyingOink - yes to all of that.
Plus if it were a job like any other, subject to the same degree of health and safety protection as any other job, there would be an awful lot of stuff going on now that wouldn't be permitted - but when people argue for it being legalised they aren't arguing for that. Also the same anti-discrimination laws - no you don't get to pick the age, sex or ethnicity of who 'serves' you.
And the job description should be accurate - no false glamorising or grooming involved.
It's not really that much like any other job really is it?
That's without the trafficking, rapes, and the overall objectifying of women.

BertrandRussell · 19/06/2019 16:39

“Are you SO determined to stick to your narrative that you’ll accept the measurable, appalling damage done to women as a result of prostitution?”

Yes, ReanimatedSGB- why are you so committed to your point of view?

Eaudear · 19/06/2019 18:02

Plenty of sex workers 'enjoy' their job about as much as a call centre worker/checkout operator/care worker does, but have decided that sex work is currently the better option for them (higher hourly rate, more flexibility when it comes to choosing the hours you want to work.)

I've worked both on a supermarket checkout and in a call centre. Did those jobs set my world on fire? No, they were largely pretty crap.

Would I compare those jobs to taking multiple dicks a day in every orifice, from a range of mostly horrible men? No.

FlyingOink · 19/06/2019 18:34

It's the plenty that's inaccurate. I'm sure there is at least one woman who prefers prostitution to Morrison's. It's just that 99.99999% of all the other women would prefer the tills. And we seem to be giving that one woman's experience equal weighting to the several billion on the other side.

Datun · 19/06/2019 19:09

My attitude to prostitution does not depend upon the very small number of women who say they enjoy it. It depends upon the far more significant number of women who say they don't.

This is not a difficult concept. The only people who misunderstand it, are those who need to view women as commodities.

OrchidInTheSun · 19/06/2019 19:12

I doubt any women would choose it if they could have the same flexibility and earn the same money at the checkout

dreichuplands · 19/06/2019 19:16

The women I knew who were the least physically repelled their sex work were women who experienced child sexual abuse and had very distorted boundaries around sex and a damaged sense of self.

OrchidInTheSun · 11/10/2019 13:00

Wow - this thread went really off course at the end there!

Just found out that Rubberman was dismissed by the NSPCC in August.
Well done to everyone who complained.

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