AIBU to say that if you work in child protection you shouldn't post pictures of yourself wanking at work in fetish gear?

[ArcheryAnnie]

People do all kinds of things in their private life, and - as long as it's all consensual, and involving adults, in private - that's absolutely fine with me. Even if it involves fetish stuff that I find deeply unsexy. It's your private time and your business.

But if you bring your fetish into work, that's really inappropriate. Involving other people in your kink without their consent is not OK.

If you bring your fetish into work and take time to entertain yourself in the loos with it, that's way, way beyond really inappropriate.

If you work in child protection campaigning, and bring your fetish into work, and take time to entertain yourself in the loos with it, and take a photo of yourself while doing it, and upload that photo onto the internet, then you probably need to consider whether a career in child protection is really for you.

(And if you are doing this while working on campaigns about abused and neglected children, you should not be surprised when people ask what made you so aroused.)

And dear NSPCC - who I used to have a direct debit to, and who used to be in my will - people objecting to this are not being homophobic or "bullying". Many of who are objecting to your staff member's actions are ourselves gay. We just seem to have a better grasp of safeguarding than you do.

I agree schools should have policies to which they adhere.

However a belief in gender identity ideology is simply a belief and should not form the basis of any school policy.

Apparently he brought it up, completely unrelated to the lesson set. He initiated it himself completely unnecessarily, according to the boy.

I guess it might be more understandable had they been having a PSHE lesson about the subject.

The thing is Datun it is just 'apparently '. We have no idea what actually happened before.
I understand how critical this issue is i really do. But the video, posting it and sharing it is wrong.

What is this absurd obsession with fetish, such crap. I can't understand it.

The only way this insanity will actually be toppled in schools is if kids actually document the insanity that is being perpetuated in schools.

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I agree we don't know the context. And I'm reluctant to be too definite, just in case.

Targeting individual teachers will not 'topple' anything or change anything. Because teachers don't make policy. Governments do.

Targeting individual teachers will not 'topple' anything or change anything. Because teachers don't make policy. Governments do

They do and it is not government policy yet that there are more than 2 sexes is it?

What are these other sexes if there are more than 2? And what is their role in sexual reproduction?

Targeting individual teachers will not 'topple' anything or change anything. Because teachers don't make policy. Governments do.

And governments govern by democracy. If no one knows what is going on, they will not have an informed vote.

This isn't really about targeting teachers, either. They are doing a job, I know. It's targeting an ideology that is creeping into everything.

Targeting individual teachers will not 'topple' anything or change anything.

Its not targeting teachers.

Teachers have a legal duty to uphold the rights of pupils.

If there is a clash of the law, then quite frankly it is their problem to sort out with government.

What are these other sexes if there are more than 2? And what is their role in sexual reproduction?

He was almost certainly referring to gender expressions rather than biological sexes. He was almost certainly not claiming that there are more than two reproductive classes of human aside from egg producers and sperm producers.

The boy is of course correct that there are only two reproductive sexes (a point which was almost certainly not being disputed) and is free to disagree with an expressed opinion that gender should be recorded on a form.

But, as ever, time and place for arguing the toss with a teacher about such things. Preferably outside a lesson not directly related to debating such points.

But, as ever, time and place for arguing the toss with a teacher about such things.

They were both arguing. Because it’s impossible to argue by yourself.

So that should equally be “time and a place for arguing the toss with a student”.

Preferably outside a lesson not directly related to debating such points.

The teacher brought this up as an issue not the student.

Why must students only bring up points when they are allowed to being up points? If a teacher is wrong, why must students sit there and accept this without challenge?

It is gaslighting. As you well know.

It's not gaslighting to think it's not always appropriate for a single pupil to derail a lesson to the detriment of the entire class learning the required curriculum.

On Twitter, today...

It's not gaslighting to think it's not always appropriate for a single pupil to derail a lesson to the detriment of the entire class learning the required curriculum

a teacher kicked a kid out of class for knowing that there are two sexes.

That is gaslighting.

We have no idea of the context of the video. Making definitive statements that the teacher in question was "gaslighting" his pupil seems premature.

All I've said is that it is not always going to be appropriate for a pupil to derail a lesson.

Nor frankly do I think every instance of disagreeing with someone (even if wrongheaded) is "gaslighting" them.

Nor frankly do I think every instance of disagreeing with someone (even if wrongheaded) is "gaslighting" them

It is not about the disagreeing.

It is about only being allowed in the class if you state something that you believe, and science believes, is untrue.

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That sounds very um, what’s the word, safe?. 🙄

How has this thread got derailed onto the teacher being filmed topic?

There is a separate thread on that.

Now what I'm really interested in this morning which I hope isn't a derailment, is that new "child protection" organisations @SmileEachDay posted about, which welcomes LGBT, sex workers (by which most dodgy people like this mean pimps, not prostituted women) and kinky people into leadership positions.

I think the NSPCC bloke would be fast-tracked to leadership there, unencumbered by old-school trustees who might have the silly idea that your sex life should be kept well out of the office. Although of course, if enough of the sort of people who are very clearly organising to get into leadership positions in charity have made it into the NSPCC, then there soon won't be a cigarette paper between them.

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Are you on Twitter? If so you can report the organisation I posted about. It’s not the usual report button, you need this link:

help.twitter.com/forms/cse

And you notice that even this prostasia organsiation or whatever it's called (really? prostates abound?) doesn't mention its main focus of protecting children - de-stigmatising paedophilia, re-branding paedophiles "Minor Attracted People" (MAP's) and generally making it safer for child abusers to operate in the world.

Their timeline is full of posts and retweets that are specifically designed to blur and shift boundaries.

Until I read the last sentence of that tweet I honestly thought that was a spoof tweet re-writing the mission statement of the NSPCC itself, since it seemed to fit with their defence of Mr Toilet Wanker.

Making definitive statements that the teacher in question was "gaslighting" his pupil seems premature.

What I saw in this clip was a teacher basically refusing to present a coherent counter argument and attempting instead to mentally browbeat and strong arm the student. Basically he told him to shut up and adhere to the stance of the authority. Bloody scary. Where is the 'teaching?' Surely teaching involves encouraging critical discussion? My interpretation is he privately agrees and doesn't like being shown up by a 'mere' pupil.

I must say my miserable depressing school days are looking increasingly blessed in hindsight. I remember us having strong discussions about the pros and cons of abortion in R.E. and, good question and answer sessions in sociology. I remember one debate where several girls who had experienced FGM argued about the virtues of it. And we sat and listened to what they had to say before asking questions and explaining why we thought it was wrong. The teacher did not slap them down and neither did we.

I was never told by any teacher ever "The authority says this. So shut up" Was definately told to shut up when chatting during a during a lesson but never for raising a counterpoint.

And this happened in a western school in the western world

Glad he filmed it. Further evidence of the nationwide gaslighting that's been done to children.