Moving the May Bank Holiday. Will this cause you inconvenience?

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I work Mondays. I am still paid for the Bank Holidays. I don’t work Fridays. I have already made my holiday arrangements around child care for 2020 and now unless I can take a day off unpaid my plans are now up the creek. Also my job involves a diary of clients that book up almost a year in advance so this will now also need to be sorted.
Not a happy bunny, this should have been announced at least a year in advance for people accommodate.

I don’t have enough holiday allowance left to take it off paid

When does your holiday year run to and from? It’s quite unusual you’d be a) booked up so far in advance and b) but be able to mive any plans later in the year to account for it.

I don't think it will. I don't work Mondays but my annual leave entitlement is pro-rata and takes into account Bank Holiday Mondays. There is a formula which is about as complicated as the Duckworth-Lewis method.

So I will get a four day weekend!

I work tue-thurs and don’t get bank holidays in lieu.

It makes no difference to me, I don't work Mondays or Fridays. I get a significant amount added to my annual leave to account for the bank holidays I don't get though!

I'm sure that with nearly a year's notice, it should be possible to make alternative arrangements, even if it means booking leave for the Monday that was going to be the bank holiday to care for children.

No reasonable employer would have a problem with that. If they do have a problem, they're not reasonable and don't deserve you!

I think honouring the veterans is important. As some people have said, it’s the last major anniversary that some of them are likely to be alive.

I think it’s a bit self entitled to be complaining about it. It’s one day and we’ve got a years notice. It would be more if an inconvenience to you if you, or any of your family, were sent to war and maybe didn’t come back. Have some respect.

Potentially huge issue for schools! 2019-20 term dates will already have been published. Staff will have made holiday plans based on Monday being the bank hol.

Plenty of weddings will have been booked for that weekend.

Plus all the usual bank holiday Monday events that businesses, attractions & charities rely on.

Less than a year's notice of losing the day is going to cause big problems for many.

If you don’t work Fridays anyway how is this affecting you?

Also 11 months notice is plenty, seriously.

It really is not that unusual to plan a year in advance. My ex husband who I share weekends with the children with has to plan 18 months in advance due to his line of work. He e mails his dates firstborn me first . I then I slot my dates in around his. I’m not important at work, but they also need my holidays in advance to arrange my diary to coincide with 5 other diaries, nothing will collapse without me.

I’m clearly just selfish twat for not wanting to loose a days paid holiday that I spend with my children.

It's hardly the fault of the government that the date of the 75th anniversary falls on a Friday. And I think commemorating it is a great thing to do. Maybe it would be better for everyone to have an extra day.
For those that like to plan ahead the same thing will probably happen for the 100th anniversary so make a note of the dates

It's plenty of time. The childcare you've organised might fall through between now and then. Person looking after dc could be rushed to hospital the day before they're due to have dc. Your ridged approach to life is rather extreme! I have 3 dc so completely understand childcare is a nightmare but 11 months is fine. Stop being ridiculous.

It’s one day and we’ve got a years notice.

It's already the 9th of June, it's only 11 months notice. 18 months would seem reasonable to me.

I wonder how many weddings have been booked for the 3rd of May, with the assumption that the 4th is a bank holiday.

BlueThesaurus, check on this, you should be getting a pro rata amount of statutory holidays even if you don’t work on a Monday if you are receiving a salary. It is your right.

Didn't know about this until reading this thread, but I for one am looking forward to it as I miss out on bank holidays as I don't work Mondays. Will be nice next year to have a "4 day" weekend 😆

Potentially huge issue for schools! 2019-20 term dates will already have been published. Staff will have made holiday plans based on Monday being the bank hol.

Round here, school dates are already published for 2020/2021 nevermind 2019/2020

It’s good for me. I work full time bit do long days at the beginning of the week and shorter at the end for childcare reasons. If I’d been off on the Monday it would’ve cost me 9.75 hours annual leave. Being off on the Friday only takes 5 hours from my allowance. Obviously it means I’ll have to work the long day on the Monday but I’d rather keep the additional hours annual leave banked and use them another time.

We’ve planned but not booked a camping trip with friends fri-mon so we’ll just go thurs-Sun now.

It’s enough notice fir most people but very frustrating for those with things already booked. Big events with lots of people involved takes an awful lot of planning.

I work part time including Mondays and Fridays but Friday is my longer day so I will need to use more annual leave to cover as my bank Holidays are pro rata and don't cover all of them

@ BlueThesaurus, do you not get an adjustment to your annual leave? This is pretty standard practice these days.

You should get a minimum of 28 days leave a year, including bank holidays. If you get less than that, your employer is acting illegally.

Because you won't be using any leave on bank holidays, as you don't work those days*, you can take that time off on other days.

The minimum annual leave was increased from 20 to 28 days to include the bank holidays because the government realised that unscrupulous employers who had previously given less than 20 days were getting round increasing it by treating bank hols as leave.

• except when Chirstmas, Boxing and New Year's Day fall on Tues-Thurs, before anyone picks me up on it!

Ok, almost a years notice. 11 months notice is still plenty of time for most people.

In the Channel Islands they have Bank Holiday 'May Day' holiday Monday every year (like the rest of the UK) but (because they were occupied during WW2, and have always commemorated the day the Allies liberated them from Nazi rule) they also have May 9th as 'Liberation Day' as an extra Bank Holiday day every year (May 8th in Guernsey).

No matter which day it falls in the week, it's commemorated. Some years it gives a long weekend with Friday and Monday off, some years with Monday and Tuesday off, some years it's a bit awkward with - say - Monday and Wednesday off, and other years it falls on Saturday and/or Sunday, so isn't a 'day off' in the normal sense.

It's normal in the Channel Islands - people cope because they are used to it. Of course, it causes issues for some with shift work and childcare, but interestingly no one wants it to change. 'Lest we forget' is a big thing - Battle of Britain Day is also commemorated with a half day off school for the children (although it's a normal working day, not a Bank Holiday, but even so many companies will give it a 'day in lieu' for those who have to work it). I bet many in the UK have no idea when Battle of Britain Day is - but in the Channel Islands it's an important part of their history that they choose to make special.

I guess, what I'm wondering, is why the UK can't just add in V.E. Day as an extra Bank Holiday, as well as the Bank Holiday Monday, next year?

Granted, I may be missing something really obvious - I'm used to what I know here!

@tanmateix

I can’t find anything that says I am entitled to it- just that it would be unfair for an employer not to give this! My worry would be that I raise it with my employer who then says ‘Don’t like it? Get gone!’

Have to say I'm confused but surely its not just your bank holiday and your manager, clients etc realise that things have to change and it's not you changing it so isn't it a case of just having to suck it up and rearrange for all of you.

It won't make a difference to me but I do think it should have been an extra holiday rather than just moving an existing one. Having an extra one would have highlighted the VE day anniversary much more and maybe people would have street parties or whatever. Just moving the day will mean people will probably just do their usual thing, going away for a long weekend, etc.

And who wouldn't want an extra bank holiday.

My organisation already has events planned for the original bank holiday date. We plan events up to a year in advance. Very annoying.

DH also only works a short day on Fridays so he's missing out on the extra time off. Because of the short Friday, Good Friday day off gets moved to a Tuesday.

Why haven't they added a second date off on the friday that is optional for businesses, like when Wills and Kate got married? This is a cheapskate's way around it, because it's not commemorating the event at all, it's just moving one holiday to another date to make it look like they are.

It’s one day. Get over yourself