Moving the May Bank Holiday. Will this cause you inconvenience?

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I work Mondays. I am still paid for the Bank Holidays. I don’t work Fridays. I have already made my holiday arrangements around child care for 2020 and now unless I can take a day off unpaid my plans are now up the creek. Also my job involves a diary of clients that book up almost a year in advance so this will now also need to be sorted.
Not a happy bunny, this should have been announced at least a year in advance for people accommodate.

I do feel sorry for people in the 24/7 365 workplaces that dont get any bank holidays or weekends.
I know it may prove a pain for some other people , but i think its a nice idea to celebrate the end of the war.
i hope you can sort something out op.

almost a year in advance!!!! YABU.

It causes an issue for any teachers who have booked a non refundable weekend away covering the Monday. They will lose their money as they will now be expected to teach.
Anyone with kids in the same position will either have to cancel and lose money or have their kids marked as unauthorised absence.

If schools make the Monday an inset to get around teachers and kids being off, then a load of parents will be inconvenienced as they will now need to take the Monday as annual leave. And if you are a teacher in a school that decides to open on as normal on Monday, but your kids school decides to make it an inset, good luck with childcare!

So it would appear that making day that would have been BH Monday an inset day would make a lot of the problems go away as the main group of people who are disadvantaged are teachers who have already made plans for BH Monday a year in advance?

But aren't inset days still working days for teachers? Maybe schools could agree to do the training on another day, on a case by case basis where it is considered necessary?

Teachers usually work inset days but sometimes they get them off by completing the hours in lieu as twilight training sessions after school hours.

And doing that will massively inconvenience a lot of parents who will need to take a day of leave to cover the inset. It's a huge issue of working parents who already have issues finding childcare for 1e weeks per year versus a 5 week annual holiday entitlement.

Moving the Bank holiday??

Had no idea about this until I read the thread

I suppose it's almost a years notice, but still a complete pain to juggle with work and childcare

As someone who has just painstakingly taken our HR Manager through the BH issue for the umpteenth time, I am not surprised understanding is so low (and she works Mondays only herself!).

(can't help but NOT feel sympathy for those couple who booked their weddings on the BH Sunday, because I can't imagine a better way to spoil a long weekend than to slap a wedding in the middle of it)

A friend of mine is due to be a bridesmaid ON what was the Bank Holiday Monday.

She's a teacher - the bridal party (including the bride) are 4 teachers from the same school.

Going to be an awkward conversation with the head this morning!

Not really it's more likely the bride will move the wedding to a different date. As numbers able to attend will be reduced.

Not really it's more likely the bride will move the wedding to a different date. As numbers able to attend will be reduced

She won't. That's already played out on the post. Date has a special significance. Booked 2 years ago to have even a chance of getting into the venue.

I know someone who has booked their wedding for the Monday that should have been the bank holiday (May the 4th- they are geeks 😄) and they are very very unhappy!

I also work Mondays but not Fridays.

But to make it fair I am only paid for a pro rata'd number of bank holidays (in my case 90%) because I am not full time. So whatever day it falls on, it shouldn't affect your pay whether you normally work or not.

People that wont shift the date will just hve to accept that the number of guests will be lower. It seems ridiculous not to change it!

People that wont shift the date will just hve to accept that the number of guests will be lower. It seems ridiculous not to change it!

They've had it booked for two years ALREADY. So almost 3 by the time the wedding comes around. Do you think it is that easy to change?

Seemingly (and bearing in mind I only know the bridesmaid and not the bride) it is a small, intimate wedding and reception on the Sunday, so it appears only to be the 4 from the same school who will be massively affected.

Sunday should be Monday!

It is not as easy as just changing the date of a wedding. I booked over a year ago for 4th May 2020 and have paid over half of the package price which is non refundable and non transferable, we cannot afford to change it and lose that amount of money, which I'm sure is the case for many couples.

A few phone calls. It's not the massive deal it's being made out to be.

A few phone calls. It's not the massive deal it's being made out to be

You’re very naive.

I may not have followed correctly but it looks like some employers give part-time/shift workers bank holidays off paid on top of the minimum holiday allowance if they are contracted to work that day. The staff not contracted that day still get their legal time but are missing bonus time off

Well, they shouldn't be doing that. They're breaking the law.

If you work p/t, for every bank holiday they should give you the equivalent of the hours you would work IF your hours were spread over 5 days, for every BH.They should be added to your annual leave allowance.

Then they deduct from the allowance the hours you actually work when you take a day's leave or when a BH falls on a day you work. This is the simplest and most commonly used method.

There are other methods, but they are mind-bogglingly complicated.

Organisations like police, NHS etc when shift-working is long established will have their own methods. In the case of the PP's husband who works f/t but compressed to give a half-day on Fridays, when I've known people working that pattern, they've just had to suck up the fact that they get less time off when a BH falls on a Friday, but I'll check with DP when he's home if this complies with the relevant directive.

But everyone p/t who doesn't get added hours for BHs on non-working days is being robbed of 5-7 days per year (depending on when the Christmas BHs fall). PLEASE bring it up with your management of HR departments!

I don't work Mondays or Fridays and I get more than a week's hours added to my annual leave.

As someone who has just painstakingly taken our HR Manager through the BH issue for the umpteenth time, I am not surprised understanding is so low

I am shocked that so many employers aren't giving people the legal minimum leave, because they don't understand it!

Not really affected as I and DW, work 12 hour shifts and work the same 4 week cycle all the time, I either get double time for bank holidays (375 and 250% for Christmas & Boxing Day) or normal pay and day of in lieu.
Missing point totally, but why is VE day and WW2 so important, as I can't remember in my 50 years, ever having a bank holiday to remember the important dates of WW1.
My family lost 10 in WW1 and rather luckily no one in WW2, so selfishly WW1 and the 11/11 means so much more to my family, which is 2 minutes silence and a Sunday nearest it. Why the difference?

I basically gain a days holiday as i dont work fridays but work mondays. I usually have to work the friday after a bank holiday to make up for it but wont have to.

As part time worker i get 80% of my holiday allowance plus 80% of bank holidays but have to use a full days holiday to cover every bank holiday monday.

Just to add i work 4 days instead of 5 hence 80%

In the case of the PP's husband who works f/t but compressed to give a half-day on Fridays, when I've known people working that pattern, they've just had to suck up the fact that they get less time off when a BH falls on a Friday, but I'll check with DP when he's home if this complies with the relevant directive.

I wouldn't know about directives, but in our organisation, staff on variable hour patterns take their holiday allowance in hours, according to the day that they take as holiday. So an overall allowance might be 256h, and 6h is deducted for a 6h day, 9h for a 9h day etc.

The guy with the compressed hours allowance you mention has the same situation as a guy in our office.

He is happy because instead of having the dictated BH fall on a 9h day, it is falling on a 4h day - so he has 5 extra hours free to book.