To be deeply disappointed in John Cleese

[drspouse]

I have no idea if this is typical but he just tweeted that London isn't an English city any more
What is it then pray tell? What's not English about it??

“Though I am not as old as Cleese, I do remember the 60s/70s/80s and it was definitely a more sedate and polite society.”

That's usually a coded suggestion that "everyone knew their place"

I would agree with that.

Remember the sketch with John Cleese and Ronny Corbett.

Some interesting character diagnosis of John Cleese going on here, and indeed of an entire generation least they didn't have kids going round stabbing each other, people being too obsessed with other people's povs, the pitifuls and obsession of social media of today, people used to actually mingle and talk to each other, and they had decent tv and music.

least they didn't have kids going round stabbing each other,

Yeah, Teddy Boys and flickknives just didn't happen ...

Or Mods and Rockers.

they had decent tv and music

Really. Does anyone think the black and white minstrel show was a great premise on how to reflect the lives of black people. Oh, and the Benny Hill show treated women with respect and dignity.

Thinking about it, why aren't these decent shows brought back?
Hmm, I wonder .....

Love thy Neighbour?

Englebert Humperdink keeping the beatles from no 1?

The stones going to jail?

It was all so good and proper.

Benny Hill has only been replaced with that knobhead Keith Lemon really. Oh and trash like love island and Jeremy kyle.

‘Rose tinted spectacles of a very privileged white man do not equate to accurate recall’

So do you disagree with the content of what he says, or do you automatically gain say anything he says because he’s - gasp - priviliged! and - my god -white! and - oh no - a man?!

He earned his privilege by hard bloody work, and he can’t exactly help the fact he’s white or a man. He’s just as entitled to an opinion as any other human being.

They did have seaside special and Val Doonican though and original Star Trek

That's usually a coded suggestion that "everyone knew their place"

“Who’s that then?”
“I dunno, must be a king.”
“Why?”
“He hasn’t got shit all over him.”

He earned his privilege to go to public school how?

I'm simply saying that how someone who was privileged may not remember thing accurately or as many other people would. Especially as saying things were: " more sedate and polite", that would not ve the experience of millions of people.

He didn't earn the privileges grsnted to him ij the 1960s of being white, upper middle class or male.

“He earned his privilege by hard bloody work, and he can’t exactly help the fact he’s white or a man.”

Yep. Started life in a shoe box in middle o’t road......

He didn't earn the privileges grsnted to him ij the 1960s of being white, upper middle class or male.

So............ what?

He was lucky!

Licking road clean wit’ tongue...

He was lucky!

So........ what?

So what?
Well your point that he earned his privileges isnt accurate for one.

Secondly, maybe its easier to remember the past as more sedate and polite if you were white, or male or middle class at the time. That's not the experience that millions of others had of it

Oh Isabella you missed he joke there.

Oh Isabella you missed he joke there

Nope. But Terry Jones did it better.

I’m not a million years younger than Cleese and I was a privileged white young woman in the 70s. Life really was not better for most people then. Neither was TV. I don’t know about music because we all tend to like our own era, but food was boring, the class system was even more depressing than it is now, and people only left their doors open because rhey didn’t have anything worth nicking. Oh, and there was loads of really unpleasant violence, both individual and gang related. And football hooligans.

Oh, and terrorism in London was a million times worse than it is now.

Maybe its easier to remember the past as more sedate and polite if you were white, or male or middle class at the time. That's not the experience that millions of others had of it

Again, so fucking what?! How fatuous can you get! Do you expect him to remember his own experiences or other people’s?

In fact the original was Marty Feldman in "At last the 1948 show"